Comments on: Utah, BYU Bring Pac-12 Football Into 21st Century http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278 Celebrity sports gossip since 2001 Sat, 26 May 2012 08:23:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: X-Factor http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38131 X-Factor Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:07:15 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38131 Since when do academics have anything to do with college sports? Since when do academics have anything to do with college sports?

]]> By: Brad S http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38126 Brad S Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:57:32 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38126 "Cannot happen because of academics. Pac 10 requires certain levels of its schools including research grant levels. " I'm willing to venture neither Arizona nor Arizona State fit that requirement when they transferred from the WAC to the Pac-10.  Both BYU and Utah, in their own way, have the academic pedigree the Pac-10 desires, plus they have the facilities. "Cannot happen because of academics. Pac 10 requires certain levels of its schools including research grant levels. "

I'm willing to venture neither Arizona nor Arizona State fit that requirement when they transferred from the WAC to the Pac-10.  Both BYU and Utah, in their own way, have the academic pedigree the Pac-10 desires, plus they have the facilities.

]]> By: DWayne http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38116 DWayne Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:21:37 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38116 The BSU homers are forgetting basketball. The BSU homers are forgetting basketball.

]]> By: Zyme http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38095 Zyme Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:32:02 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38095 Dude, dont use the word own the pac ten. You beat UW (worst team) and UCLA (3rd worst team). Congrats, you munched this years bottom feeders. Its like making the same assumptions about the pac 10 should they eat your bottom teams. I am in full favor of BYU and UTAH joining (the argument that BYU isn't a good acdemic school is a joke, Utah you have an argument, but its no worse than OSU). I would hold judgment on how good those two teams are until next year. If you can beat UofO at Autzen, then come talk (BYU home games at the vagas bowl don't count, neutral field my ass), but I digress. Having Utah and BYU would also work in distance. It is about 13 Hours from Eugene to LA, same from Eugene to SLC. This would also work with the pairings the the pac 10 boasts OSU/UO, USC/UCLA, etc... Their accedemics work and they would really round out the the conf. Do it, the pac-10 would be all the better for it. (Plus oregon would get another crack at USC on a neutral field). Dude, dont use the word own the pac ten. You beat UW (worst team) and UCLA (3rd worst team). Congrats, you munched this years bottom feeders. Its like making the same assumptions about the pac 10 should they eat your bottom teams. I am in full favor of BYU and UTAH joining (the argument that BYU isn't a good acdemic school is a joke, Utah you have an argument, but its no worse than OSU). I would hold judgment on how good those two teams are until next year. If you can beat UofO at Autzen, then come talk (BYU home games at the vagas bowl don't count, neutral field my ass), but I digress.

Having Utah and BYU would also work in distance. It is about 13 Hours from Eugene to LA, same from Eugene to SLC. This would also work with the pairings the the pac 10 boasts OSU/UO, USC/UCLA, etc… Their accedemics work and they would really round out the the conf. Do it, the pac-10 would be all the better for it. (Plus oregon would get another crack at USC on a neutral field).

]]> By: Brad James http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38085 Brad James Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:42:55 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38085 P.S. I'm Mormon too, so yes I can although I prefer brunettes. P.S. I'm Mormon too, so yes I can although I prefer brunettes.

]]> By: Brad James http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38083 Brad James Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:42:21 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38083 This is part of the way that the BCS will seed playoff teams in subsequent seasons. The demand is too great for a playoff and while I'd like to see the BCS destroyed, we're going to have to rely on their stupid rankings to seed the teams. However, this is a move in the right direction. Brigham Young and Utah already own the PAC-10, so much like ASU and the UofA joined in 1978, the Cougs and Utes should be invited as well. This is part of the way that the BCS will seed playoff teams in subsequent seasons. The demand is too great for a playoff and while I'd like to see the BCS destroyed, we're going to have to rely on their stupid rankings to seed the teams. However, this is a move in the right direction. Brigham Young and Utah already own the PAC-10, so much like ASU and the UofA joined in 1978, the Cougs and Utes should be invited as well.

]]> By: Chris http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38076 Chris Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:09:22 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38076 "I think BYU and Boise would be the best fits here, Utah has had a few flash in the pan seasons, but not enough to make that move." How on earth is Boise any less of a "flash in the pan" than Utah? "I think BYU and Boise would be the best fits here, Utah has had a few flash in the pan seasons, but not enough to make that move."

How on earth is Boise any less of a "flash in the pan" than Utah?

]]> By: Tony http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38055 Tony Tue, 09 Dec 2008 17:45:06 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38055 Cannot happen because of academics. Pac 10 requires certain levels of its schools including research grant levels. BYU does not meet those standards. For that matter WSU and OSU do not meet the standards either, but as members of the old Pac 8 conference, they were grandfathered in to the academic standards when they increased 14 years ago. Also why no CSU team like Fresno State can get n. Cannot happen because of academics. Pac 10 requires certain levels of its schools including research grant levels. BYU does not meet those standards. For that matter WSU and OSU do not meet the standards either, but as members of the old Pac 8 conference, they were grandfathered in to the academic standards when they increased 14 years ago. Also why no CSU team like Fresno State can get n.

]]> By: Zyme http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38029 Zyme Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:20:40 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38029 Look, the reason expansion has been nixed is due to  a high accedemic standard. Boise state does not offer that but BYU and Utah does in spades. Though all have have strong football programs, BYU and Utah are much better fits at Pac-10 type of school. One major problem is the scheduling. The north/south divisions would look like the Big-12 N/S divide: N:BYU, Utah, UofO, OSU, UW, WSU N:UofA,ASU, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC Another problem is the schedule, with the 9 IC games that the Pac-10 plays, you would be limited to 3 out of division games were you to play you entire division. In basketball this would become even harder to deal with. With only 18 IC games you would home and home your divisional games and only have enough spots left to play the other division once. This does work in other systems. In conclusion. This would help many schools, esepecially USC in creating a championship game and a 13th game they could put on a resume. This would however, give oregon another crack at them on a neutral sight (somewhere like Qualcom or Candlestick would make sence for geographic reasons). For basketball this would also make the Papé Challenge, Pac-10/Big-10 challenge more interesting (1 team would sit out on the pac-10 side like the 1 team on the big 10 side does now). Scheduling would be important to consider, but it would be a good addition to the confrence. Look, the reason expansion has been nixed is due to  a high accedemic standard. Boise state does not offer that but BYU and Utah does in spades. Though all have have strong football programs, BYU and Utah are much better fits at Pac-10 type of school. One major problem is the scheduling. The north/south divisions would look like the Big-12 N/S divide:
N:BYU, Utah, UofO, OSU, UW, WSU
N:UofA,ASU, Cal, Stanford, UCLA, USC

Another problem is the schedule, with the 9 IC games that the Pac-10 plays, you would be limited to 3 out of division games were you to play you entire division.

In basketball this would become even harder to deal with. With only 18 IC games you would home and home your divisional games and only have enough spots left to play the other division once. This does work in other systems.

In conclusion. This would help many schools, esepecially USC in creating a championship game and a 13th game they could put on a resume. This would however, give oregon another crack at them on a neutral sight (somewhere like Qualcom or Candlestick would make sence for geographic reasons). For basketball this would also make the Papé Challenge, Pac-10/Big-10 challenge more interesting (1 team would sit out on the pac-10 side like the 1 team on the big 10 side does now). Scheduling would be important to consider, but it would be a good addition to the confrence.

]]> By: Vassago http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38024 Vassago Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:47:04 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/utah-byu-brings-pac-12-football-into-21st-century-21278#comment-38024 I think BYU and Boise would be the best fits here, Utah has had a few flash in the pan seasons, but not enough to make that move. I think BYU and Boise would be the best fits here, Utah has had a few flash in the pan seasons, but not enough to make that move.

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