Comments on: Surprise! Belichick Going For It Was Smart Move http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987 Celebrity sports gossip since 2001 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:23:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Kid Twist http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-140055 Kid Twist Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:30:17 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-140055 Going for it on fourth down requires 100% success. In other words, you have one chance to make one play! Punting transfers the probability of making a mistake to Indy. After the punt, Indy must make SEVERAL plays and avoid costly mistakes. After the punt he Pats would have opportunities for sacks, fumbles, interceptions, deflections, bad snaps, no gains and goal line stands. Next time ...PUNT! Going for it on fourth down requires 100% success. In other words, you have one chance to make one play!

Punting transfers the probability of making a mistake to Indy. After the punt, Indy must make SEVERAL plays and avoid costly mistakes. After the punt he Pats would have opportunities for sacks, fumbles, interceptions, deflections, bad snaps, no gains and goal line stands.

Next time …PUNT!

]]> By: Mike Cooley http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139124 Mike Cooley Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:39:17 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139124 Joshua, you're missing the point. The dumb call was not running on third and 2 with a lead and time running down. he did show more faith in his offense than his defense, but you could argue he would rather take his chances against getting 2 yards against Indy's D or giving manning and their O a chance to win. Plus, NE's D still had a chance to stop them, 28 yards should not be a gimme if your D is playoff worthy Joshua, you’re missing the point. The dumb call was not running on third and 2 with a lead and time running down. he did show more faith in his offense than his defense, but you could argue he would rather take his chances against getting 2 yards against Indy’s D or giving manning and their O a chance to win. Plus, NE’s D still had a chance to stop them, 28 yards should not be a gimme if your D is playoff worthy

]]> By: NotTheDoctor http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139102 NotTheDoctor Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:16:49 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139102 The formula doesn't include a stats for the following; a. the colts only had one timeout left and the 2 min warning was gone, b. Manning had thrown 2 int in the quarter, c. colts rookies were dropping passes, d. and you're the Patriots and should have been able to win that game on defense. This is the type of call a HS coach would make. I'm glad it didn't work, hopefully we never see any NFL teams make the same stupid gamble ever again. Pathetic. The formula doesn’t include a stats for the following; a. the colts only had one timeout left and the 2 min warning was gone, b. Manning had thrown 2 int in the quarter, c. colts rookies were dropping passes, d. and you’re the Patriots and should have been able to win that game on defense. This is the type of call a HS coach would make. I’m glad it didn’t work, hopefully we never see any NFL teams make the same stupid gamble ever again. Pathetic.

]]> By: Doc http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139095 Doc Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:47:27 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139095 Regardless of whether the Pats punted or went for it on 4th down, the Colts would have won this game either way -- there was simply no way the Pats defense was going to stop them regardless of where they started their drive. I actually think Belichick was right to make this call because at least Brady had been converting pretty consistently against their defense all night long. It was his defense that wasn't stopping them. Regardless of whether the Pats punted or went for it on 4th down, the Colts would have won this game either way — there was simply no way the Pats defense was going to stop them regardless of where they started their drive.

I actually think Belichick was right to make this call because at least Brady had been converting pretty consistently against their defense all night long. It was his defense that wasn’t stopping them.

]]> By: Joshua http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139053 Joshua Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:19:38 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139053 Uh, no. Bad call. He told his defense he doesn't trust them at all, even though they made the Colts punt 7 times that game. What he should have done on third down shouldn't factor in his call on 4th down. What he didn't do has no affect on what he should do next. If he made that call on 4th down because he wished he ran on 3rd, well, that would be even dumber than not punting. Uh, no. Bad call. He told his defense he doesn’t trust them at all, even though they made the Colts punt 7 times that game.

What he should have done on third down shouldn’t factor in his call on 4th down. What he didn’t do has no affect on what he should do next. If he made that call on 4th down because he wished he ran on 3rd, well, that would be even dumber than not punting.

]]> By: Roxtar http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139048 Roxtar Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:11:30 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139048 Oh - and as for whether or not Faulk had possession, I think we should take that call out of the hands of all Colts and Pats fans and ask....let's say the Raiders fans? See: Tuck Rule and Karma..... Oh - and as for whether or not Faulk had possession, I think we should take that call out of the hands of all Colts and Pats fans and ask….let’s say the Raiders fans?

See: Tuck Rule and Karma…..

]]> By: Roxtar http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139045 Roxtar Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:10:23 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139045 As a Colts fan - first of all...thanks Bill and Co. And a special thanks to Faulk's greasy hands. That said - I totally agree. This was the right call and I had a small bit of panic last night as a Colts fan when that ball was actually snapped for them to go for it. Regardless of Peyton getting the ball on the 28 or his own 28 - he had PLENTY of time to drive the field. What may have actually worked, even if the conversion had failed as it did, was the Colts would score too quickly and Brady and Moss only have to get in field goal range. Luckily, not only was it a sure thing that the Colts were going to score, but Peyton was able to rely on the run to get good chunks of yardage and chew up clock. Best finish to a game yet this year! As a Colts fan - first of all…thanks Bill and Co. And a special thanks to Faulk’s greasy hands.

That said - I totally agree. This was the right call and I had a small bit of panic last night as a Colts fan when that ball was actually snapped for them to go for it.

Regardless of Peyton getting the ball on the 28 or his own 28 - he had PLENTY of time to drive the field. What may have actually worked, even if the conversion had failed as it did, was the Colts would score too quickly and Brady and Moss only have to get in field goal range. Luckily, not only was it a sure thing that the Colts were going to score, but Peyton was able to rely on the run to get good chunks of yardage and chew up clock.

Best finish to a game yet this year!

]]> By: ogre http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139031 ogre Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:27:11 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139031 Why didn't Tom Brady just jump up and down and point to wear he wanted the refs to put the ball? Why didn’t Tom Brady just jump up and down and point to wear he wanted the refs to put the ball?

]]> By: vggn http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139030 vggn Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:26:44 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139030 In ther big picture this loss means nothing to the Pats, they lead the AFC East, and will probably win it. So they have to travel to Indy and play them again. Do you really think the Pats don't think they can't hang 40+ points on Indy, remember the 2 turnovers one (the fumble in the endzone) a sure 7 points. If they get either of them we aren't even talking about this! In ther big picture this loss means nothing to the Pats, they lead the AFC East, and will probably win it. So they have to travel to Indy and play them again. Do you really think the Pats don’t think they can’t hang 40+ points on Indy, remember the 2 turnovers one (the fumble in the endzone) a sure 7 points. If they get either of them we aren’t even talking about this!

]]> By: Steve Naismith http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139026 Steve Naismith Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:13:30 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/surprise-belicheck-going-for-it-was-smart-move-26987#comment-139026 What none of these stats and probabilities account for is the huge momentum shift that took place when the 4th and 2 attempt failed. What none of these stats and probabilities account for is the huge momentum shift that took place when the 4th and 2 attempt failed.

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