Comments on: Nike Shoe Deal Forcing Soccer Star To Be Traded? http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149 Celebrity sports gossip since 2001 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:16:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: mydak http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75345 mydak Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:48:46 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75345 not quite the point i was going for there, as with the Beckham case,  <strong>a move was probably on the cards for ribery anyway</strong>, and whilst Nike will not be forcing the move to happen, if they notice a move is going to happen, then they will use their influence to help the guy go to one of "their" clubs. It might be that they restructure his boot deal, and effectively pay a chunk of his wages for barca, or just offer more cash if he does play for them. It is in his personal interest to make as much from the sponsorhip as possible. not quite the point i was going for there, as with the Beckham case,  a move was probably on the cards for ribery anyway, and whilst Nike will not be forcing the move to happen, if they notice a move is going to happen, then they will use their influence to help the guy go to one of "their" clubs. It might be that they restructure his boot deal, and effectively pay a chunk of his wages for barca, or just offer more cash if he does play for them.
It is in his personal interest to make as much from the sponsorhip as possible.

]]> By: Celtics Suck http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75278 Celtics Suck Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:00:55 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75278 and as a final point to highlight your ineptitude, Bayern did not win back to back titles as you claim, they in fact won 3 titles in a row from 74-76.  You must have been thinking of Ajax earlier in that decade, but then, naturally, you'd also be wrong, since they also won the competition 3 times in a row from 71-73. Bayern's current team is built on the backs of German players with a spattering of Brazilians like Lucio and Ze Roberto who have been there for years, and cast-offs like Mark van Bommel, so please don't try to insinuate that they have the ability to draw big time talent like Barca or Real.  Please go back to your pre-bosman time warp and don't interupt the adults when we are talking footy and as a final point to highlight your ineptitude, Bayern did not win back to back titles as you claim, they in fact won 3 titles in a row from 74-76.  You must have been thinking of Ajax earlier in that decade, but then, naturally, you'd also be wrong, since they also won the competition 3 times in a row from 71-73. Bayern's current team is built on the backs of German players with a spattering of Brazilians like Lucio and Ze Roberto who have been there for years, and cast-offs like Mark van Bommel, so please don't try to insinuate that they have the ability to draw big time talent like Barca or Real.  Please go back to your pre-bosman time warp and don't interupt the adults when we are talking footy

]]> By: Celtics Suck http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75275 Celtics Suck Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:58:08 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75275 and as a final point to highlight your ineptitude, Bayern did not win back to back titles as you claim, they in fact won 3 titles in a row from 74-76.  You must have been thinking of Ajax earlier in that decade, but then, naturally, you'd also be wrong, since they also won the competition 3 times in a row from 71-73. and as a final point to highlight your ineptitude, Bayern did not win back to back titles as you claim, they in fact won 3 titles in a row from 74-76.  You must have been thinking of Ajax earlier in that decade, but then, naturally, you'd also be wrong, since they also won the competition 3 times in a row from 71-73.

]]> By: Celtics Suck http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75265 Celtics Suck Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:39:45 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75265 And I didn't say the ppl at SBB don't know about soccer, I said they don't care, your post though, proved that YOU know nothing about soccer. And I didn't say the ppl at SBB don't know about soccer, I said they don't care, your post though, proved that YOU know nothing about soccer.

]]> By: Celtics Suck http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75261 Celtics Suck Fri, 03 Apr 2009 08:31:15 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75261 Ajax has not even won an Eredivisie championship in years.  Their best player is Luis Suarez who is nice but could not crack Tottenham's starting 11, Van Basten is a shambles and they have been losing ground to PSV and AZ for years.  So Dicky Manfriedi maybe you are writing your response from 1994 because the football world has changed drastically from where your perspective seems to be grounded.  Their glory years have passed as Holland is too small of a market to attract major players.  German teams are on much the same footing as interest in the German league has been waning for years internationally.  The league may be still popular in Germany, but to say it attracts the interest of La Liga or the Premiership is laughable.   You're point about Beckenbauer is moot, as it would be close to 30 years since he kicked a ball for that club and those "back to back" Euro Cup are distant memories for top players looking to sign for top clubs, e.g. Barca or Real.  Bayern has not seriously  challenged for the Champions League nor has had the ability to attract major talent on the level of the Italian, British or Spanish teams for 10 years.  Luca Toni was a nice little signing, but he is hardly the calibre of player that teams like Barca or Inter would be looking to sign.  Ribery is another example of using a club like Bayern as a stepping stone to bigger clubs like Barcelona.  Get your facts straight and don't try act as if teams like Ajax and Bayern are close to the level they were before the Bosman era.  The money is not there.As for "mydak" and your claim that sponsorships make more money for players, that is fine and good, but my point was that sponsors are not driving the transfer market for major clubs when TV rights dwarf the amount of money made through kit sponsorships and place the power firmly in the hands of the clubs. Ajax has not even won an Eredivisie championship in years.  Their best player is Luis Suarez who is nice but could not crack Tottenham's starting 11, Van Basten is a shambles and they have been losing ground to PSV and AZ for years.  So Dicky Manfriedi maybe you are writing your response from 1994 because the football world has changed drastically from where your perspective seems to be grounded.  Their glory years have passed as Holland is too small of a market to attract major players.  German teams are on much the same footing as interest in the German league has been waning for years internationally.  The league may be still popular in Germany, but to say it attracts the interest of La Liga or the Premiership is laughable.   You're point about Beckenbauer is moot, as it would be close to 30 years since he kicked a ball for that club and those "back to back" Euro Cup are distant memories for top players looking to sign for top clubs, e.g. Barca or Real.  Bayern has not seriously  challenged for the Champions League nor has had the ability to attract major talent on the level of the Italian, British or Spanish teams for 10 years.  Luca Toni was a nice little signing, but he is hardly the calibre of player that teams like Barca or Inter would be looking to sign.  Ribery is another example of using a club like Bayern as a stepping stone to bigger clubs like Barcelona.  Get your facts straight and don't try act as if teams like Ajax and Bayern are close to the level they were before the Bosman era.  The money is not there.As for "mydak" and your claim that sponsorships make more money for players, that is fine and good, but my point was that sponsors are not driving the transfer market for major clubs when TV rights dwarf the amount of money made through kit sponsorships and place the power firmly in the hands of the clubs.

]]> By: mydak http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75248 mydak Fri, 03 Apr 2009 07:53:53 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75248 Actually i think you got wrong celtics. It is reasonably common for  players to go to teams who get their kits from the players own boot sponsor. It maximises the money made by the player themselves, as they will always be able to do promotional stuff for their sponsors. This makes up a fair chunk of the money that a player will make, you've got to remember that the playing deals are nowhere near what is made in most of the big leagues in the states (in most cases) so the boot and associated deal can be a big driver for someone when deciding on a new club. Beckham has played almost exclusively for addidas clubs. He left united after they became Nike - he had already kind of fell out with the manager, so that was probably the real reason he left, it was just where he went to which was up for a decision. If i remember rightly, in the pro-leagues in the states the kits/uniforms etc. are all supplied by one company, so there isn't the same kind of competition etc. Over in Europe there is. Actually i think you got wrong celtics. It is reasonably common for  players to go to teams who get their kits from the players own boot sponsor.
It maximises the money made by the player themselves, as they will always be able to do promotional stuff for their sponsors.
This makes up a fair chunk of the money that a player will make, you've got to remember that the playing deals are nowhere near what is made in most of the big leagues in the states (in most cases) so the boot and associated deal can be a big driver for someone when deciding on a new club. Beckham has played almost exclusively for addidas clubs. He left united after they became Nike - he had already kind of fell out with the manager, so that was probably the real reason he left, it was just where he went to which was up for a decision.
If i remember rightly, in the pro-leagues in the states the kits/uniforms etc. are all supplied by one company, so there isn't the same kind of competition etc.
Over in Europe there is.

]]> By: Richard Manfredi http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75224 Richard Manfredi Fri, 03 Apr 2009 06:55:42 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75224 You have to be joking if you're saying that Bayern Munich doesn't have the "footballing cache" of other European teams? I guess Franz Beckenbauer and back-to-back-to-back European Cup titles mean nothing? I guess you would consider Ajax a "second rate" team to? And you say we at SbB don't know anything about soccer... You have to be joking if you're saying that Bayern Munich doesn't have the "footballing cache" of other European teams? I guess Franz Beckenbauer and back-to-back-to-back European Cup titles mean nothing? I guess you would consider Ajax a "second rate" team to?

And you say we at SbB don't know anything about soccer…

]]> By: Celtics Suck http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75179 Celtics Suck Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:53:26 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75179 yes i know CC moved from the Brewers but i was in class, so gimme a break yes i know CC moved from the Brewers but i was in class, so gimme a break

]]> By: Celtics Suck http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75151 Celtics Suck Fri, 03 Apr 2009 03:58:47 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/ribery-to-transfer-to-barcelona-because-of-nike-23149#comment-75151 <p>Smells like you guys are out of your depth here.The money teams make from Nike sponsorships pales in comparison to the money the team will make from their TV deal when we talk about teams like Barcelona or Milan or Man Utd.  The teams have enough monetary leverage to resist Nike or Adidas trying to dictate their transfer policy.  Bayern Munich is playing in what is essentially a "B" league compared to England, Spain, and Italy so any move for one of their players by a major club from one of those leagues would be very attractive to those players like Ribery.  The English, Spanish and Italian giant clubs have much more footballing cache than teams like Bayern Munich and players simply don't turn down the chance to join teams like Barcelona, much like CC going to the Yankees from the less sexy Cleveland Indians.Also, to think that Alex Ferguson would let Nike dictate the sale of Beckham to Real Madrid  from Man Utd would be like Nike telling the Tuna to cut or trade a player, it just wouldn't happen.  This is not to say that teams wouldn't want their players to sign with their sponsor, but this is where it stops.  Good try at being provacative though and I totally wasted my time since no one gives a sh*t about soccer on this site.</p> Smells like you guys are out of your depth here.The money teams make from Nike sponsorships pales in comparison to the money the team will make from their TV deal when we talk about teams like Barcelona or Milan or Man Utd.  The teams have enough monetary leverage to resist Nike or Adidas trying to dictate their transfer policy.  Bayern Munich is playing in what is essentially a "B" league compared to England, Spain, and Italy so any move for one of their players by a major club from one of those leagues would be very attractive to those players like Ribery.  The English, Spanish and Italian giant clubs have much more footballing cache than teams like Bayern Munich and players simply don't turn down the chance to join teams like Barcelona, much like CC going to the Yankees from the less sexy Cleveland Indians.Also, to think that Alex Ferguson would let Nike dictate the sale of Beckham to Real Madrid  from Man Utd would be like Nike telling the Tuna to cut or trade a player, it just wouldn't happen.  This is not to say that teams wouldn't want their players to sign with their sponsor, but this is where it stops.  Good try at being provacative though and I totally wasted my time since no one gives a sh*t about soccer on this site.

]]>