Last night Hanley Ramirez was removed from the Marlins-Diamondbacks game by Marlins manager Fredi Gonzalez for not hustling on a defensive play. (More on that here, including video of incident.)
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As the Marlins have a day game today, Ramirez addressed the media about the incident Tuesday morning:
It’s his (Manager Fredi Gonzalez) team. He does whatever he (expletive) wants. There’s nothing I can do about it. It’s brutal.
That’s OK. He (Gonzalez) doesn’t understand that (playing hurt). He never played in the big leagues.”
Gonzalez responded to Ramirez’s comment about him not understanding the situation because he never played in the big leagues.
“He’s right. But I know how to play the game. I played six years in the minor leagues and I know what it takes to play this game and I know the effort it takes to play this game and I know it’s hard to play this game. That’s it.
Gonzalez, according to Marlins reporter Joe Capozzi and Clark Spencer will not put Ramirez back in the lineup until the shortstop apologizes for his comments this morning.
Case you’re wondering, it appears the entire organization, from Ramirez’s teammates to owner Jeffery Loria, are firmly in Fredi’s corner.
Capozzi has this from “clubhouse leader” Wes Helms on Ramirez:
To just flat-out not hustle, that’s one of the things, I can’t cope with that. That’s one of my pet peeves. I can’t stand two things in baseball: Guys who don’t hustle and guys who don’t work. We’re trying to go to the World Series here. We’ve got to have all 25 guys on the same path.
“I can’t overlook it. I know people say that’s just the way he is. But you know what? That’s not the way it is. That’s not the way the game’s supposed to be played. And that’s what we want from Hanley.
“We want him to be that guy that goes out there everyday and we can sit back and says that‘s who he is – he’s the one who goes out there everyday and busts his but and does anything he can for this team. That right there will earn the respect of not only his teammates but everybody in the league.”
Does he have to come in here and apologize to everybody?
“It would be good. I know I would. It would be good to hear it from him.
“I was in Atlanta when the (John) Rocker thing went on. He was made to do the apology , but when he apologized to the whole team and held a 30-minute meeting, it gives you a little sense of easement. Kind of puts it to rest a little bit. Because right now when you don’t hear that, there’s still anger built up inside of you.
“One of the best things to cure anybody is to talk about it. It would be nice. It would be.”
Okay, invoking John Rocker’s apology might be a little overboard, but you get the point.
On a possible apology, Ramirez said this to Capozzi:
Do you plan to apologize to the team?
“To who?”One of your teammates suggested an apology might be good if you did that.
“Do what?”Apologize.
“For what?”They thought that you were dogging it chasing that ball.
“We got a lot of people dogging it after ground balls. They don’t apologize.’’
Those comments were made before Gonzalez made it clear on the record that Ramirez would have to apologize.
The irony of Ramirez’s comments about his injury and Gonzalez never having played in the majors is that part of being a big leaguer is overcoming the compulsion to play hurt when it might injure the team’s chances of winning. Something obviously lost on Ramirez.
11:43 am on May 18th, 2010
I think I just became a Marlins fan.
12:47 pm on May 18th, 2010
Derek Jeter he is not.
12:51 pm on May 18th, 2010
Another **** head disrespecting the game that made him a millionare instead of a gangster. I love Fredi for taking a stand
12:56 pm on May 18th, 2010
i say bench him for the rest of the year or send him back to the minors.
12:57 pm on May 18th, 2010
Gonzalez is my kind of manager.Pujols and Molina dog it to first base frequently but Tony LaRussa will not say anything to his pet player.
12:57 pm on May 18th, 2010
Another ungrateful little Bich. You’re getting payed to play a game, go out there and play your best. Otherwise you would be flipping burgers or barely making a living in a third world country like you would have been.
1:00 pm on May 18th, 2010
OK, where do I get my Marlins Hat? Odds on, they will be either getting their apology, or paying a lot of money for him to sit……and it would be worth the price. Go Fredi
1:17 pm on May 18th, 2010
Makes you really appreciate the Players like Derek Jeter , huh? I applaud Fredi and hope against hope that they leave Hanley on the bench for a very long time. Or , like someone else mentioned , send him down for a good long look at just how lucky he is to be playing in the bigs. Never thought he was near as good as it appears he thinks he is , anyways.
1:20 pm on May 18th, 2010
Good decision Fredi!!!!!!!!!!!!
1:23 pm on May 18th, 2010
I watched Hanley in the minors.He has talent but never went all out then, and I was glad the Sox got rid of him
1:25 pm on May 18th, 2010
Must be something genetic in the Ramirez surname. Are he and Manny related? I’m sure the Red Sox would never be interested in Hanley, given their experiences with Manny dogging it, too.
1:29 pm on May 18th, 2010
Go Fredi!!!!! Love to see STARS get brought down to earth…..
That was a funny comment by hanley though, not ever playing in the majors.
1:30 pm on May 18th, 2010
never miss a marlins game and I think dispite all Hanley;s god given talent, he doesn’t hustle. He doesn’t run out ground balls, he doesn’t steal bases, and he runs the bases station to station. I salute marlin management for their stance on lack of hustle. This team has a chance but all players need to be comitted .
1:35 pm on May 18th, 2010
I hate players who dog it. That’s why i like David Eckstein, he always hustles.
1:44 pm on May 18th, 2010
EVEN HE SAYS IM SORRY,YOU KNOW HE DOESNT MEAN IT.
1:46 pm on May 18th, 2010
This guy will never apologize-he has an attitude he hasn’t even earned the right to have! Fredi, sit his ass down for as long as you can get away with it!!! Fans please unite and support Fredi and all the other managers that are dealing with selfish babies instead of men with integrity. I wish I made in one year what these assholes make in one game!! Shame on him. Mantle played hurt, mattingly played hurt, I play hurt, put up or get out.
1:48 pm on May 18th, 2010
DOMINICANS ARE LIKE THAT,THEY THINK THEY ARE GODS GIFT.THEY GREW UP STARVIN AND ONCE THEY GET TO THE USA,THEY ARE NOT HUMBLE PEOPLE.MEANWHILE EVERY ONE IN THERE COUNTRY ARE STARVING .THEY HAVE NO MORALS.AND I KNOW SOMEONE IS GONNA SAY SOMETHING STUPID BUT THATS EXPECTED.
1:50 pm on May 18th, 2010
Another big fat rich cry baby not getting his way …. so sickening ! I say Hanley should get canned and take his contract and money away from him ,
1:50 pm on May 18th, 2010
Aweome, what a punk!!
1:51 pm on May 18th, 2010
Todd Helton never dogs it.
1:58 pm on May 18th, 2010
HIT HIM WHERE IT HURTS……SIT HIS ***. LOVE FREDI NOW….LOVE TO SEE PISSING CONTESTS…..HOPE FREDI WINS….
1:59 pm on May 18th, 2010
All of you racist white folks are going to burn in Hell, not like you care! You all think you are superior over all races, but what you really are, are a bunch of hater!
All of you are born with gold spoons in your big mouths , only to degrade the next race because deep down inside you which you weren’t White! If you are so proud to be white why the tanning booths, coolagen, etc. LOL
2:00 pm on May 18th, 2010
There are a lot of guys who dog it to first base. Don’t tell me Hanley never did. But dogging it chasing a live ball while playing defense is certainly raising the bar!! Nice job, Ramirez. If nothing else, you’ve set a new standard! It’s going to be hard to stoop underneath that one!
2:00 pm on May 18th, 2010
Collagen
2:03 pm on May 18th, 2010
HANLEY RAMIREZ, Fredi was right in pulling Hanley out. This was one of the worst displays of baseball I have ever seen. It was bad enough that he kicked the ball,”lack of focus”, but then the loaf after that was unbelievable… To just say that’s the way he is, doesn’t cut it… Yes I put him in the catagorie of Manny, and all the other guys that think their too good to run balls out hustle etc. He needs to be reminded how lucky he is because he obviously could not handle a real job… So, let him ride the bus in single A, BUT FOR MY MONEY HE WOULD BE TRADED ASAP. He is slowing down the team from moving and acheiving their goal…
2:04 pm on May 18th, 2010
Way to go Fredi
2:06 pm on May 18th, 2010
FIRE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2:08 pm on May 18th, 2010
Kami-
What does race have to do with anything? This was about a “PROFESSIONAL” baseball player not pulling his weight and not doing his job. He gets paid to do a job and baseball is his job and he isn’t doing it, so sit him down.
Besides that, I wasn’t born with a silver spoon in my mouth and I work hard for my money. He gets a lot of money to play a game (I get that it’s hard), so he should do his damn job!
Leave the race card out of it, as it has nothing to do with anything!
2:08 pm on May 18th, 2010
You people are crazy, fire this bum gonzalez this is Hanley’s team. The guy was on a bad wheel from when he fouled the ball off his foot earlier in the game. Where was the moron right fielder, over pursuing the ball of course. The only reason the Marlins hang around every year is because of Ramirez and good pitching. Bums like Uggla strike out every other AB. Fire the manager or do Hanley a favor and trade him. Marlins striving for a world series thats the biggest joke I have ever heard.
2:09 pm on May 18th, 2010
Thank you Mel for sticking to the subject! To All the KKK members this is not about race, it’s about a spoiled man who doesn’t want to pull his weight. There are probably a whole bunch of lazy white players, they just don’t get called out! Only minorities get called out!
2:10 pm on May 18th, 2010
Fredi played minor league ball. That means he hustled twice as hard as any major leaguer, for pennies on the dollar and with half the perks. Major leaguers are paid ridiculous money to PLAY BALL… then they get mineral water, hot tubs, massages, and a limo back home. F’ing hustle and if you screw up, man-up and apologize and realize how good you have it!
2:10 pm on May 18th, 2010
I did not know it was a prerequisite to play MLB to be an MLB manager. Maybe someone needs to let Ramirez know that nobody is paying him to manage and that he has no idea what a manager has to do to manage selfish/ lazy players - because he has never managed at the highest level. What an arrogant piece of crap. A manager manages a TEAM. If you are not a team player, take a seat! Great job Mr. Gonzalez. 100% support.
2:12 pm on May 18th, 2010
@”DOMINICANS ARE LIKE THAT,THEY THINK THEY ARE GODS GIFT”
and with opinions like this you apparently think you are one of those god gifted people.
Seriously race has nothing to do with this at all. There are white, black, brown, etc players who do the same thing. Milton Bradley, Jeff Francour come to mind of players with immense talent but lack the hustle to be their best.
I think it’s funny that white people often get upset when someone plays the “race card” and yet here unprovoked more than one (I’ll assume white person) has brought his race up as a factor. I believe that is playing the “race card”
2:13 pm on May 18th, 2010
@ adam
domincans ARE NOT A RACE you idiot. if they fall into any racial breakdown, they would be classified as “hispanic” or latino.
the marlins manager is right. sit that lazy bum down until he pulls his head out of his butt.
2:13 pm on May 18th, 2010
anybody suggesting they sit him because he dogged it on one play is a flat out moron. this is one of the top 5 players in all of baseball. yeah, takling a moral stand beats winning.
2:15 pm on May 18th, 2010
Good for Fredi!
2:16 pm on May 18th, 2010
Bob, you are an idiot.
2:16 pm on May 18th, 2010
@adam
You’ve gotta be kidding. Jeff Francoeur may not be all that his talent could’ve allowed him to be, but you CANNOT say that’s due to lack of hustle. Lack of plate-discipline, sure. Lack of growth as a player, ok. But not lack of hustle. And to put Francoeur in the same sentence w/ Milton Bradley is LAUGHABLE. None of JF’s teammates ever had anything bad to say about him or his effort. If you want a white guy who doesn’t hustle…look at…come to think of it, all the white players I can think of DO hustle. Weird.
2:18 pm on May 18th, 2010
Sorry I meant Mel. Sorry Bob!
2:18 pm on May 18th, 2010
If he is too hurt to hustle, then why don’t they place him on the DL?
2:19 pm on May 18th, 2010
Re: Shut Up! It sounds like you have Hanley on your fantasy team. Good players do not win World Series, Good Teams win. Gonzalez and the Marlins are seeking to create a World Series Championship caliber team. They (nor anyone) should have an interest in playing a top 5 player for the sake of paying a top 5 player. The list of top 5 player’s to never win a World Series is long. Gonzalez has the right approach.
2:21 pm on May 18th, 2010
Top 5 players? He’s good, but not that good. And in a tight pennant race giving up one or two games due to crappy defense can mean no playoffs.
Ramirez is not the first or last major leaguer to be like this, but it’s ugly to watch. It pains me to say it (I hate the Yankees) but it does make you appreciate Jeter. David Eckstein is fun to watch too, glad he’s back at second.
2:21 pm on May 18th, 2010
He was just banged up from the foul ball he isnt injured just. Goes back to that thing are you hurt or are you injured if your hurt you can play. This guy was showing his mettle playing in a game that meant nothing against a lousy team, he very easily could have removed himself from the game but wanted to be a real team player and help his club out.
2:26 pm on May 18th, 2010
who is this “Kami chick”? first of all, buy a dictionary and learn to spell, then get a brain. this was NEVER about race, and you obviously can’t figure that out! it’s about putting forth the effort to play a sport and get paid millions of dollars to do so. i have yet to see a player pull this type of stunt in the big leagues. ONLY MINORITIES GET CALLED OUT????? are you serious??? that’s the point you have to bring up?? WOW! dealing with a smart one here. he has disrespected his team, his manager, the Marlins organization and fans. they need to sit him down and let him ride the pine until he truly understands what he did wrong. this attitude he has after only playing a handful of seasons is ridiculous. he needs to go back to where he grew up and realize just how great he has it. he’d be chasing chickens in the street if he wasn’t playing baseball!
2:33 pm on May 18th, 2010
I’m a little confused by the manager’s stance. The best player on the team gets punished for not running hard enough? NOBODY would have been able to get to the ball and prevent the runs from scoring. Fredi needs a few skins on the wall before he can act that way. Seems like a personal issue, and that doesn’t fit in the bigs. That’s his minor league experience kicking in.
2:34 pm on May 18th, 2010
Too bad Gonzales will be gone by next month and hanley will be back to dogging it for his millions. Pro sports in general need to be taken back by the fans.
2:35 pm on May 18th, 2010
Manny Ramirez I thought was suppose to be a grown man, not a little boy crying about his hurt feelings. Yes, baseball gets old after 162 games and years of playing it. It’s hard to hustle on every single play. But to disrespect your highered leader, your manager, your coach, your teammates and the fans (so to speak)…just apologize, move on and do your job. Don’t be a baby. O, I just realized, fraudian slip…I meant Hanley Ramerirez, not Manny Ramirez…O well, what’s the difference. Another athlete that people shouldn’t admire or look up to. Be smart choose a good person (Chirst for example), I’m sure there are plenty of people in your town and if it needs to be a pro athlete, I pick Tebow…even if he does play for the Brancos!
2:36 pm on May 18th, 2010
I said gold being sacastic, lol gold is worth more than silver, or did you know that. Bye the way it’s Kami not Cami. To the other person who mentioned it’s not about race, read the comments before mine, then read mine again.
2:36 pm on May 18th, 2010
For a couple a million a year you better do more than hustle for the ball. You’re suppose to be a professional player with an edge amongst all other players.
2:42 pm on May 18th, 2010
When asked if he planned to apologize for “dogging it,” he replied, “We got a lot of people dogging it after ground balls. They don’t apologize.”
He admits he dogged it, but justifies not apologizing for it. To me, he is an ungrateful, spoiled, selfish loser. He should, voluntarily, rip up is contract. He’s not honoring it. If I were the owner, I’d fine him, and get back some of my money for breach of contract.
2:43 pm on May 18th, 2010
Re: David McGee! I agree 100%. For years I supported players rights. However, with the money that is being paid (by raising the cost of the game to the FAN) to Play (hard time calling it work) for a living, I expect more. The owners should certainly expect more. The fact that is lost on Marlins Fans and fans of MLB is we control the final say. Fans fail to unify their opinion and as a result we relenquish power back to players and owners. Don’t pay to see Hanley and he is out of a job. End of story.
2:46 pm on May 18th, 2010
…then he wants to say that his manager never played in the bigs? One wonders if Hanley has ever managed - at any level.
Hanley Ramirez, take a look around you; there are players on your team, in your league and in the minors who all are better than you in at least one way - they play the game as it is meant to be played. You do not.
2:46 pm on May 18th, 2010
Unfortunately, there is a sad statement to be made culturally about SOME Dominican ball players - but there have been black and white players who have shown a propensity for a lack of hustle. I recall Gary Carter failing to run out ground balls for the Mets, for instance - and he was never called out for it. Milton Bradley, well, he’s a piece of work that has little to do with his being black - he is just a nut case and that has nothing to do with his race, he’s just a nut.
2:47 pm on May 18th, 2010
HAHA Hanley cracks me up!!!! i love players that arent afraid to put a manager in his place. I understand he dogged it but COME ON!!! When your the Florida Marlins, winning occurs just as often as the NETS lol!!! Hopefully Hanley goes to a better team. Shot the Astros would be a big improvement! And Hanley is right, there are some players on the Marlins team that dont go all out game to game. So you cant expect him to if no one else is.
2:49 pm on May 18th, 2010
For the idiot that wrote about RACE. U can shove it. The shortstop needs to be put in his place. We as fans pay his salary. He needs to grow up and be a man. Hanley needs to man up or sit his *** on the bench and go somewhere else.
2:53 pm on May 18th, 2010
Everyone who is dogging Hanley didnt rip Lebron for not demanding the ball in the last 4 minutes of a game that was still in doubt. He gave up your not ripping him and saying he is garbage, everyone praises King James. It was a game against Arizona, he booted the ball and probably was embarrased plus had a swelled up anked. I mean come on people we are in May. If was August and the Marlins were in a division race I could see all the fuss but this is ridiculous. This guy is an unbelievable talent and hasnt had many people call out his work ethic in his career.
2:57 pm on May 18th, 2010
Maybe we can convince the Red Sox to take Hanley
back and get Beckett, Lowell and two players to be named later
3:02 pm on May 18th, 2010
GO Lakers. That is why King James will never win a crown. At least James played hurt and gave it his all. Hanley needs to sit and get a wake up call.
3:03 pm on May 18th, 2010
What would his Mama say?!? He should be ashamed of himself, not only for his lack of hustle which played on so many sports networks last night, but for admitting and trying to defend his actions - what a ingrate.
@ Confused - if you watched the play, Ramirez actually kicked the ball then gingerly jogs to go get it. Yea he may not have gotten to the fly ball in time but it’s all on him when he kicks it away, jogs to go get it, and the runners are still running.
3:03 pm on May 18th, 2010
This is exactly what’s wrong with sports. The guy admitted he did not hustle…apologize and move on. Shane Victorino did the same thing. He took it upon himself to apologize to his teamates and has had a great season since. At least pretend you give a damn. Hanley is acting like a spoiled punk. Next thing to happen will be a trade demand…gauranteed.
3:05 pm on May 18th, 2010
I agree with you Tim except Go Magic!
3:17 pm on May 18th, 2010
You have to respect the game, no one man is bigger than the game. I played in the minors for the Cardinal
organization and its true we worked hard to get promoted, but that would not be allowed. The teammates would be all over him, rightfully so.
3:19 pm on May 18th, 2010
Freddie is an Egghead. I do agree that players need to respect the game and play hard. However, MLB is not little league or college sports for that matter.
If Hanley refuses to apologize and the Freddie refuses to play him because of that, you can be sure that Freddie would get fired before trading Hanley is remotely considered.
3:23 pm on May 18th, 2010
ONE OF THE TOP 5 PLAYERS IN BASEBALL? ARE YOU KIDDING ME OR WHAT? THE PHILLIES HAVE AT LEAST THAT MANY PLAYERS BETTER THEN HIM AND THEY HUSTLE!
3:30 pm on May 18th, 2010
@TnF
I was referring to after he kicked the ball. With the other players around him running around like headless chickens, he would have had to run it down and throw a bullet to home plate. Very few players could have recovered that boot and gotten either guy out.
That’s the way I saw it, but it’s tough to tell just watching the replays. I do respect your opinions on the matter, just disagree.
3:30 pm on May 18th, 2010
I think its pretty sad that even if a player has a pimple on his hamstring,he wants to sit.He wants the big money but wants to ride the train drawing a paycheck.Most of the professional athletes are pathetic this way.
3:39 pm on May 18th, 2010
Fredi - love it! I’m sure there are 24 others who respect your decision and will run into fences for you.
3:41 pm on May 18th, 2010
Well, I think that if the Marlin’s ownership was serious about winning World Series, then this guy has to be traded. Simply because you cannot rehabilitate this kind of attitude. It’s like having a bad virus, it can spread but it cannot be cured. Git rid of him and move on. This will also set a precedent that other players might understand - you either play the game like it’s supposed to be played or back your bags. What a prima donna.
3:43 pm on May 18th, 2010
WAY TO GO FREDDI !!! NOW THATS A BIG LEAGUE MANAGER ……. IF THERE IS NO CHEMISTRY ON THE TEAM TRADE HIM …… THAT WHY DAN UGGLA CANT STAND HIM …… GO FISH !!
3:52 pm on May 18th, 2010
He needs to be booed in every city he plays in
3:52 pm on May 18th, 2010
lets get this straight, he is a complete ahole and he and his wife cami (kami) should go back to puerto rico. when i played in the majors if you didn’t hustle you got your ass whipped in the locker room and then fined. if it continued so did the fine and the ass whipping. bring those days back.
3:54 pm on May 18th, 2010
I think it’s sad when you can’t comment on a man’s ability without making racial slurs. Real men and women see people for who they are - all created by God with none being better than the other. Critique the game and his lack of hustle, not his homeland, culture, or race. Don’t use this as a medium to post your racist remarks. I enjoy reading other’s views when they are fair and not racially biased for racially charged. Grow up and learn what life is really about - love for your neighbor, even if they do need to be corrected for failing to do a job ??????????? Look at yourself - it appears to me that you’re failing to do your job - should God fire you.
3:58 pm on May 18th, 2010
I think Ramirez must be send to the minors for the balance of this season. Big money for nothing, he is what we call in spanish “un zoquete”. He is very wrong. I’m a Yankee fan and when they send Soriano packing I was very happy because he was very lazy. He was a very and talented player pero don’t want to use his abilities. I think the Marlins must trade him for a pitcher or any player because he is a very bad example for the others players. I,m happy now whit the yankees because all players play the game the way has to be. Jetter, Cano, Texeira, Alex, Posada, Cervelli and all the outfielders and players are ready to give 100% and beside that, respect for their manager and couches.. Hanley come down from that cloud.
3:58 pm on May 18th, 2010
Man, look at us all tearing each other apart for this piece of crap. Really, I know it’s for what he represents more than what He actually did. He is just the latest of that type of player who, like a spoiled child, has been allowed to get away with this behavior. Punish him, make him and others like him, understand that it will not be tolerated by owners, managers and mostly the FANS. We deserve respect and we should settle for nothing less.
4:06 pm on May 18th, 2010
if in the game–then hustle
managers address every non hustle play
get rid of players that don’t have a good hustling reputation—-there are plenty of hustle replacements
hanley do what it takes to have a reputation as a hustler
4:08 pm on May 18th, 2010
The Florida marlins should apologize to Hanley for not puttinga competitive team on the field.
4:14 pm on May 18th, 2010
I think that Fredi is so right on this. Hanley was with the Red Sox and I hated to see him go but now I am glad. When I played ball it was 100% or not at all. Coach had no problem benching me and if I got mouthy about it, next game was gone too. Only took once. So what if Fredi never played in the ML, that doesn’t mean that Ramirez should dog it. Damon, Nixon, Jeter, Guererro, Mantle, and tons of other played through the pain and still managed to give 100% out on the field. No reason for Ramirez not to do the same. GO FREDI !!! GO MARLINS WITHOUT RAMIREZ. You don’t need a spoiled brat.
4:15 pm on May 18th, 2010
Great talent, but not very smart and doesn’t respect the game that has made him wealthy. Behind Freddy and the Marlins 1000%. It’s 25 guys, you can’t allow one to destroy the clubhouse. Look at guys like Roberto Clemente, Bernie Williams, Tony Perez, Cookie Rojas,Tony Oliva and many many others who played the game the right way. A shame!!!
4:17 pm on May 18th, 2010
Big deal if they don’t play Hanley……..he will just sit on his but and get paid milions. It’s a win-win for Hanley and a win-lose for the Marlins. Hanley gets paid no matter if he plays or not. (win-win)
4:22 pm on May 18th, 2010
don’t apologize,the hell with ‘em.
4:27 pm on May 18th, 2010
He was 100% wrong, but if the Marlins think he is ever going to let this go….he’s not!!! They never do…its time to pony up and start shipping him out. These things never end well. Time to go!!!
4:31 pm on May 18th, 2010
over payed arsehole,get a job in safeway stackin sheves4 a week and will soon apoligize,punk
4:40 pm on May 18th, 2010
So, here is our choice:
A guy that hustles and bets on the game and another jerk-off that wants to phone in a ground ball. Fire his ass. The only thing he should be throwing is peanuts.
4:41 pm on May 18th, 2010
Well, take me out back and shoot me, but what manager calls out one of his best players in public? Why wasn’t this incident handled behind closed doors? I think there are other issues involved. Has the player be made to be a scapegoat to motivate the other 24 players? Has the manager unjustly gone after the player as retribution for something else. Do the manager and player already have bad blood between them? The player then calling out the manager in public means he is finished as a Marlin but must now carry a bad reputation to the next club. These kind of stories only scratch the surface. This manager is no Billy Martin. As I said, other managers don’t do this in the media unless it is a minor player.
4:44 pm on May 18th, 2010
Hanley is not a good team player. With all his god given talents, he does not do the “little,” things that helps a team win. Move runners up, beat out a ground ball, take pitches and work a walk instead of swinging at the first pitch, etc. Often, his throws to first are lazy and in the dirt. His body language “sucks.” The lifting up of his left leg is ridiciulous and he ends up missing low pitches. Trade him. Get something in return and let someone else handle his attitude.
4:53 pm on May 18th, 2010
This is a lot like Gomes from the Reds… I’m a Brewers fan, but yesterday (on a homerun) and today (on a single that shoulda been a double) the guy just stood in the box for a good second looking at the ball… You hit the ball you run… The ball gets hit, you do your job and run after it… it’s not that hard.
5:03 pm on May 18th, 2010
Hanley came in 2nd in NL MVP voting last year and won the batting title. You don’t win the world series with team players. You win the World Series with good players. Fredi Gonzalez has lost his mind. Gonzalez has the most to lose here since he is the one who has to win or find another job. I don’t know why he would want to pick this fight now. Hanley clearly got hit by the ball in the first inning. This was the wrong time to take a stand.
5:12 pm on May 18th, 2010
Great going Fredi.
This guy is a lazy xSS who should sit.
The Players Assoc will probably come out in support of Hanley becuase he makes so much $$$$.
But it’s jerks like him that are ruining the game.
Grab some pine - Meat.
5:27 pm on May 18th, 2010
All I can say is another spoiled MLB player who makes $$$$$$ thinks the fans, which most won’t make even 2% of his salary in a lifetime will understand his complaining!! …… Awwww darn…. if only they were paid for how they did on the field….. but I guess its just a dream!
5:38 pm on May 18th, 2010
I’m so tired of how every freakin story on the news has to be about RACE or SEXUAL orientation. Rich latino player is being unfairly treated because of race? Yeah….BULLSH*T!! It’s because he KICKED the ball and then didn’t hustle after it while runners are rounding the bases. Get a life people and stop making excuses for someone of your own race. I will never defend anyone of any race if they are a lazy piece of crap. Ramirez gets paid $7 million per season = $43,000 per game. That’s insane that he thinks he doesn’t need to hustle. They need to fine him and send him to the minors and fast.
5:48 pm on May 18th, 2010
someone needs to tell this punk that he needs to think before he opens his mouth and be humble. I am totally in agreement with Fredi on this one. Another super star idiot
5:50 pm on May 18th, 2010
Fredi Gonzalez did the right thing by benching Ramirez. However, there are some people here making stupid and racist comments about Dominincan people. Please stop generalizing when saying that all Dominicans are the same. Your comments are very offensive. Yes, our country is poor and your country is reach but it does not mean that eveyone is starving like you said. Again, you just sound jelous at the baseall talent we produce in Dominican Republic. You are jut an arrogant person and you should pick your words carefully when talking about other cultures.
5:50 pm on May 18th, 2010
That’s OK. He (Gonzalez) doesn’t understand that (playing hurt). He never played in the big leagues.”
Send him back to were every!!!
5:57 pm on May 18th, 2010
This was one of those rare occasions when I found the comments interesting–until the one about players from the DR, which was embarrassing.
In Tampa Bay we have Carlos Pena and Willie Aybar from the DR and they are class acts–along with a couple of others from there who are on track to being appreciated here. Despite Pena’s slump, he deservedly remains a favorite of all fans regardless of their nationality.
6:04 pm on May 18th, 2010
MLB has been giving this guy nothing but respect, making him one of the big names in the league and he ruins it by showing his true attitude. What a fool! I’ll bet he would flip out if his paycheck came a day late.
6:24 pm on May 18th, 2010
Why is it white players always hustle?
6:25 pm on May 18th, 2010
The coach should make this punishment without pay and then make him earn his position back, or send him back down to the minors to re-learn the word respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6:34 pm on May 18th, 2010
MEL, DO NOT TALK LIKE THAT ABOUT DOMINICANS…YOU MOST BEHAVE YOU SELF AND TAKE CARE YOU SELF. AND LET ME TOLD YOU SOMETHING, THE BEST SALARY PLAYERS IN MLB ARE DOMINICANS…..SORRY ABOUT IT!!! ALSO HANLEY IS RIGHT MANY PLAYERS MADE A LOT OF MISTAKES AND MADE MORE MONEY THAN HIM AND NEVER APOLIGIZE FOR NOTHING…
7:04 pm on May 18th, 2010
The ONLY way to treat these multimillionaire nonachieving ball players that do not give their all when playing. I watched a game last night where 3 outfielders completely misread fly balls by not using basic fundamentals! This is totally uncalled for. Nobody seemed to care and that in itself is WRONG! How about an apology for those. I think that demotion to the minors for a specified time might just get their attention. Or maybe docking their pay every time it happens, I really think this could work! Thanks!!
7:07 pm on May 18th, 2010
if u see the latino players are on top of the baseball and some pleople are jelous, ok, fine him or sit him for two or tree games, and play the dam game
7:15 pm on May 18th, 2010
These are grown men who need to understand the dynamic of being a well paid public figure and human being. If you’re hurt and hide it, it’s on you but to think that gives one an entitlement to dog it you’re wrong. Right or wrong the public perception is act like a grown up with wisdom at your disposal or suffer their disdain. Taking a shot at the manager just clarifies what kind of prima donna this guy is who would jeopardize team unity for his own pride and unwillingness to admit error. I never did a lot of things but I believe I’ve learned how to problem solve and this guy is the problem - will the immates run the asylum??!!??
7:22 pm on May 18th, 2010
Ramires, just ask out of the florida, and play for a contender,many others do terrible, and nothing.
go Hanley my best for u
7:25 pm on May 18th, 2010
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7:26 pm on May 18th, 2010
What do you get when you cross Hanley with Milton B…someone too stupid and lazy to steal.
7:28 pm on May 18th, 2010
Another prima donna, send his butt back to the Dom. Rep. and let him collect cans for a living. Glad we shipped him out of Boston. Please Boston no more Ramirez’s. Of any kind.
7:31 pm on May 18th, 2010
Best move I’ve seen from a manager in a while. These players think they are bigger than the game nowadays. I don’t care about his talent level. It is a poison to the organization on all levels. let him go back where he came from and sleep on a dirt floor, and maybe he’ll realize how great he has it here in the States. The rest of the world complains about the good ole USA, but they all can’t wait to move here. BYE BYE hanley
7:34 pm on May 18th, 2010
Bottom line: this has nothing to do with Race. Anyone who’s making racist comments, CUT IT OUT.
Hanley Ramirez dogged it and should be ashamed of himself. Further, all these other players “styling” should be fined too. I hate it when they hit a “homerun” which goes off the wall and they end up at first because they didn’t bother to run it out. If I was manager, I would have a rule in place that ANYONE who dogs it, gets an AUTOMATIC two game suspension without pay ! Then you wouldn’t see this type of self serving lazy behavior…
7:38 pm on May 18th, 2010
I am not necessarily following this story too closely at all, but I completely agree with the coach. I cannot stand these whiny little spoiled supposed athletes acting like babies. No matter how much a person makes or what they do, they need to do their job with all that they have within them. That pointy is only magnified when the person has been blessed with the talent and opportunity to play in professional sports. Professional sports careers are short, so they should make the absolute most of every day that they have. He owes his team an apology. WAY TO GO COACH!!!
7:55 pm on May 18th, 2010
They should just trade him.
The owner & managers complain about him every year but still keep him around. So its their fault that they have to deal with him.
Also he is the most talented guy on that team if they cant win its not his fault.
Go Hanley. Get traded to a team that appriciates your talent.
8:15 pm on May 18th, 2010
to quote T.O.’s publicist; “hanley ramirez has 70 million reasons not to hustle.”
8:25 pm on May 18th, 2010
Can we trade him for jeter or someone who actually cares. What a ******* punk
8:48 pm on May 18th, 2010
He’s always been a wimp. He doesn’t care about anybody but himself.
Atta boy Freddi !!! Hanley needs to apologize and to understand that he needs to play hard like…for instance Cody does.
He should be ashamed of himself.
8:50 pm on May 18th, 2010
Get a life.Fredi could have found a better way to handle this that wasnt so CHILDISH!!!!!!!!!!!!
9:05 pm on May 18th, 2010
Get his ass outta there……….he does’nt deserve my cable fees let alone the price of a night out at the ballgame. Feddi, you ‘da man!
9:06 pm on May 18th, 2010
maybe he expected obama to get the ground ball for him
9:10 pm on May 18th, 2010
Send STUPID home, suspend him without pay, and don`t let him back till everybody on the team agrees to let him back, after he is made to apologize. I think STUPID can`t figure out he works for somebody else, he doesn`t own anything to do with this team.
9:21 pm on May 18th, 2010
With the attitude Hanley isnt going far, hes in the top 5 and thats the reason hes such a dick. There are many other players who are the best of the game and they don’t act like that, KICK HIM OUT THE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!
9:37 pm on May 18th, 2010
Better watch out or MLB will become the NBA. A league of thugs who dog it every game.
9:41 pm on May 18th, 2010
its sad that a guy playing a game is being forced to apologize…it reminds me of being a 2nd grader and throwing sand in a girls hair, then having my teacher drag me over to her to apologize….act yur age hanley…millions of people would love to be in yur position and would most likely put more effort in than u….so use the ability u have, or find a REAL JOB
9:43 pm on May 18th, 2010
kami’s got anger problems. Probably stems from childhood incidents. We’ll ignore his comments. Shane Victorino was told about dogging it the other day and he responded by getting 8 hits in a weekend series. Hanley needs to grow up. He is immature. Period.
9:44 pm on May 18th, 2010
kami your the biggest racist here all your comments about not playing the race card all have racist remarks after them!!!! your the people that give people like hanley the attitude he has
10:09 pm on May 18th, 2010
From ( Axel )
Any Player……., Who feels that he doen’t have to give his 100% effort to this game…..Is not respecting the Game and also the Fans!! …..Do not Forget Hamley that We the FAN ….support the Team by Paying your Salary…..
10:15 pm on May 18th, 2010
I’ll settle the whole argument here, if he hustled like Craig Biggio did when he played, we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Biggio played the game like it was supposed and meant to be played…
10:20 pm on May 18th, 2010
I live in Arizona, Arizona is a right to fire state. If I treated my job the way this guy does playing baseball, I would be fired in a minute.
AND THATS IT!
No going back, no apologizing, no nothing…just trying to find a pay check to feed my family the next week.
I say, kick his ass out of the country!
azlion
10:56 pm on May 18th, 2010
If the guy can’t deliver 100% he shouldn’t be in the lineup in the first place. The manager screwed up by putting him in the lineup. What’s the nature of the injury? Either you can play or you can’t. If you can’t play then don’t say you can.
10:59 pm on May 18th, 2010
the sad thing about this is that he will be labeled for the rest of his career. He may dog it, but let him come into his own. He won the NL batting title last year doggin’ it. Wow. There must be a lot of non-dominican scrubs in the NL who are playing there hearts out and cant even hit .250. They have to bring this guy down to there below average gettin paid millions level. When I was growing up the tag on latinos or hispanics that they were hot headed. Remember Campy Campaneris throwin the bat in the ‘72 playoffs. Now they are doggin it. These guys are so good that when they stink they are better that a lot of, should I say it ………..boys!
11:05 pm on May 18th, 2010
Its not something that half of all other baseball players dont do anyway. Ive watched a lot of great players dog it run down fly balls or running to first base. The non hustle to first base comes when players start to hti and become stars they think they dont have to try anymore when its a given. I think benchinh Hanley is a good idea but some of you guys are ridiculous, deport him from the country fire him send him to the minors…..for what so Florida can get worse. Just fine the guy and be over it.
11:24 pm on May 18th, 2010
Bottom line is the guy didn’t hustle, then made an excuse and THEN sold out his teammates! What the hell?!?! Every baseball player is hurt/sore; they play 5 days a week! Hustle during the play (what’s it 5 - 10 seconds) and hurt between plays. Sit his butt ’til he apologizes. Everone makes mistakes but you need to own it and learn from it. Apologize sincerely to your team, coach and fans (lots of kids whatchin’ this guy) and move on - make them forget about it by OVERHUSTLING the rest of the yesr.
11:42 pm on May 18th, 2010
This manager handled this very poorly. He made a front page scandal out of a situation that should have been handled entirley behind the closed door of his office. There’s no problem with benching him. The problem comes when you start making inflammatory statements demanding apologies. You only antagonize people when you start talking like this. The major problem for a manager or coach is managing people. You don’t motivate people by antagonizing them. He’s got a team that’s only 4 games out of first place. I predict this team will now slide out of contention owing to this manager’s inability to manage people.
11:51 pm on May 18th, 2010
Unfortunately nothing happens out of the spotlight in professional sports. Hanley’s not a child; he’s 26 years old and made $5.5 million last year. The coach shouldn’t have to motivate the highest paid player on the team. That player should be a leader and bust his a**. Florida will slide in the standings but it’s because they don’t have enough talent to stay at the top deep into the season. This is more glaring because too often the coaches and owners handle them with kid gloves.
12:06 am on May 19th, 2010
OK. I’ve seen the video now. He definately deserved to be benched for 1 or 2, maybe even 3 games. Suspension might be in order as well, to dock his pay.
12:07 am on May 19th, 2010
Here we go with the racist white people comments. The ones that make jobs so people from every race will come and take them. Why not stay in your own country if you think whites are racist. because your own people dont take care of you. im not white and i think the people that are most racist are the ones who hide behind there race as a excuse.
12:15 am on May 19th, 2010
i have read with great interest yall’s comments about hanley and the apology issue but the one thing that is ignored or is it me but its not about not hustling its about his comments after ?i belive that is what the apology isabout as it should be
12:17 am on May 19th, 2010
I’ve had additional thoughts after reading my and others comments. The apology thing is for children and if “forced” to do it what value does it have? It may give an opportunity for a clearing of the air but each teammate should do that on his own one-on-one regardless. A public benching goes hand in hand with his public lack of hustle so I have no problem with that. My thought is I’d call a team meeting and clear the air and let everyone see what kind of man this guy really is when he isn’t forced to mend his fence with his team. It’s a complicated process when talent, money, arrogance and team chemistry meet at a crossroads - too many factors to have this work out like we all idealize it should. Provide an opportunity to heal and if that doesn’t work make plans for the next time behind the scenes because it’s coming with a guy like this. He’ll recongnize like a lot of these types that once he gets branded a poor teammate he won’t be able to hide behind his talent and his other vices will get him out of the game prematurely. Work with those who are there with the effort and proper attitude. Control what you can control.
12:20 am on May 19th, 2010
Fredi learned from one of the best that has ever managed a game in Bobby Cox. If you can’t play for Bobby, you can’t play for anyone and I can tell you for an absolute stone cold fact, if Ramirez had pulled this crap playing for Bobby, his ass would have been collecting splinters in a New York minute. Just ask Andruw Jones, one of the best defensive center fielders to ever play, or Yunel Escobar. This piece of crap and his attitude aren’t worth the time of day or cost of a ticket. Give me a kid like Jason Heyward any day!!!
12:52 am on May 19th, 2010
This organization is taking way too long to fire. They got “ready” “aim” pretty quickly - “fire” is the next move. He’s already in the crosshairs. Shoot for pete’s sake. The bum needs to be sent down to the minor’s and see then if he can figure this out. I’m thinking he’s either going to get it or he’s gonna have to be let go.
And, hey Ramirez - hang your ego and pride up and watch the men who love the game. Cal Ripken Jr. would have quit the game before putting on a stunt like this.
12:59 am on May 19th, 2010
I never hustle, although I may move faster than other times depending on risk-reward ratio.
2:05 am on May 19th, 2010
Hope he’s not getting paid, he can set out and stay home, this is not kindergarten this is professional base ball, play ball and suck it up.
2:37 am on May 19th, 2010
No one will remember this guy in a few years..he sucks and will not make All star again. Lazy ****! Go Braves!
7:52 am on May 19th, 2010
There are 1000’s of guys who would play in the Bigs for A HELLUVA lot less than this clown is making and be smiling from ear to ear and hustling their asses off…sit him down, let him think about it and if he doesn’t want to apologize, ditch him…
8:03 am on May 19th, 2010
If I was still playing and he was on my team, I’d kick his loafin butt and explain how the game is to be played.
8:34 am on May 19th, 2010
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FREDDY DID HIS JOB AS A MANACHER,HANLEY DID NOT AS A PLAYER(HIS ATTITUDE WAS SORRY)AND THEN HANLEY MADE HIS COMMETS…PEOPLE YOU LIVE OR DIE TRHU YOUR MOUNTH…!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!PLEASE PLEASE LEAVE THE RACE OUT…..AND IF HANLEY DID THIS IN HIS HOME COUNTRY….WHERE HE SELDOM PLAYS HE WOULD HAS GOTTEN HIS BUTT KICK…NEVER MIND ALL THE STUFF THAT WILL BE THROWN AT HIM….TAKE IT AND BE QUIET…!!!!!!!!!!
8:36 am on May 19th, 2010
@adam is an idiot…
wow so I’m an idiot. You’re right Dominicans are not a race of people. But it doesn’t change the point I’m making. His being dominican has nothing to do with his slacker attitude. Just like you pulling out one word in a statement and crying a river because of it doesn’t make you credible or give you any right to call someone an idiot.
And I wasn’t comparing Jeff Francoeur the man to Bradley, I was saying that not playing to one’s potential however, is not a racial or cultural thing as some people implied. You defended Francoeur but plate discipline, and honing one’s skills are all tangible traits that he has not improved. He should be a much better player, having been in the league as long as has. Therefore in respect to players spoiling great potential due to lack of work, he does fit in the same sentence with Ramirez and Bradley.
8:55 am on May 19th, 2010
Hanley who?… I THINK that is wishful thinking. He is going to be a perennial MVP candidate. He is very close to being a 5-tool player
(notice I said THINK so it my OPINION…just trying to avoid being called an idiot again)
9:09 am on May 19th, 2010
*applauds Fredi Gonzalez*
This is what is wrong with sports today. We’ve so many little b*’s who play basketball or football or baseball and these “men” believe they are god’s gift to everyone. Because of this, they will always feel superior to others and don’t feel they have to do what the manager or owner says they should.
It’s terrible how sports have become. Hanley, be appreciative and play the game RIGHT. You’re extremely talented but this isn’t your first hiccup. Stop being a punk and making you look bad
9:16 am on May 19th, 2010
Yet another ball player with his head up his you-know-what. What’s with these guys? Maybe it’s a Ramirez thing, something in the name? Manny. Hanley. Whatever. He needs to apologize to his teammates, the team and the fans. He gets paid millions to play ball, professional ball. Be a man, man. Just say you’re sorry.
9:51 am on May 19th, 2010
Who really cares? The game is so full of drugs and bookies hows a little dogging it gonna hurt it. What about all the other players dogging it? I’ve seen guys like big Poppy, A-Rod and Jeter dogging it to first base and they dont apologize, I say clean up the game before you start criticizing rookies.
10:14 am on May 19th, 2010
You are a pro, if you are hurt and unable to play at a pro level, see the trainer and let your coach. finding out you are hurt by seeing you play at less than complete effort is not fair to your team, coach, and fans. Ug took heat last year for calling you on your lack of effort. Was he right?
10:15 am on May 19th, 2010
it’s about time the management made it clear that these big boys need to remember the basics of little league playing. hustle and keep you eye on the ball were just 2 of the things my dad made sure his little guys learned. it seems to me there was also something in there about sportsmanship and that there is NO I IN TEAM!
10:17 am on May 19th, 2010
This message is for Kami, or anyone else that thinks this is about race. Being a Black man, who has struggled to be successful in my own country, I dispise anyone who plays any professional sports, making millions of dollars, and who refuse to play the game at their full potential. I feel as if that person does not want to play, give another man a chance, then you come and work in the real world. Most people would be ever so grateful to be in his shoes, and would give 110% just to be able to play everyday. I have always been a Fredi fan while he was coaching 3rd base in Atlanta, and now an evening bigger fan of his. Something must be done to Hanley now, or he will bite you later.
10:22 am on May 19th, 2010
for all of your quick to say KUDOS Fredi — PLEASE GIMME A BREAK!!! y’all don’t know the exact transaction and if you look at the Marlins as a hold - Hanley is right tooooo!!! Not all 25 other players are trying to win a World Series — as if the best player on your team is the only issue there!!! NOPE, he’s only one cog in a wheel - and currently he’s the escape joke for all of you!!!
professional sports is entertainment, FIRST!!! Disrepsecting the game - PLEASE!!! y’all take this way to personal - all of y’all ‘newly’ preofessed Fredi & Marlins JOCK-RIDERS need to get a life!!! Hanley isn’t the only millionaire jerk out there, and the Marlins have more than just him in the clubhouse jerking it off - the difference, his stupid play is plastered on every channel!!! As for y’all that don’t understand Sports Biz 101 ————- the talented players will always stay, coaches come & go!!! Hanley is one of the best in the game - unfortunately he like the others don’t revere the position like all y’all wannabes — SO AS Richard Pryor told Eddie Murphy to say to Bill Cosby who also has a penchant for being overly opinionated liek all you jerk offs ————- HANLEY says for me to tell y’all ————- “SHUT the “F” UP and have a coke & smile”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:24 am on May 19th, 2010
thanls hanley for showing up this lame, no good manager you really cant expect me to believe that hanley who is the only marlin this year that has not given 100 percent this year.
10:43 am on May 19th, 2010
Kami Wilson if you know any baseball your realose that righ field is in the other side of the field. The righ fielder was in his possition he has nothing to do in this situation this play happen at ss and he kick the ball to left field righfielder can come fron righ to field a ball in left. Learn the game before talking.
10:45 am on May 19th, 2010
As long as people use race as a determiner of anything, this will continue. As long as there is an some advantage to being a minority (like a minority owned contractor getting a 5% advantage on a construction bid), this will continue. As long as people describe a person, or acknowledge as person (like the president of the US) as a black man instead of just another lying politician, this will continue. I am white but I dont care one bit about your color or nationality, as long as you pay taxes for living in this country. And as long as sports teams pay athletes what they pay them, there will be some that loaf, period. If you were paid 50 times what you should be at your job and were guaranteed to continue to get paid that much no matter what, a lot of you people would loaf, no matter what color your skin is. (Your are loafing at work now as you read this-shame on you.)
10:52 am on May 19th, 2010
All of you racist white folks are going to burn in Hell, not like you care! You all think you are superior over all races, but what you really are, are a bunch of hater!
All of you are born with gold spoons in your big mouths , only to degrade the next race because deep down inside you which you weren’t White! If you are so proud to be white why the tanning booths, coolagen, etc. LOL
10:53 am on May 19th, 2010
“All of you racist white folks are going to burn in Hell, not like you care! You all think you are superior over all races, but what you really are, are a bunch of hater!
All of you are born with gold spoons in your big mouths , only to degrade the next race because deep down inside you which you weren’t White! If you are so proud to be white why the tanning booths, coolagen, etc. LOL”
What an ignorant comment! Get a clue!
10:59 am on May 19th, 2010
Just be Todd, Todd. Not Todd “The racist”. Turn the page dude. Everybody is doing it. Its fun! One day we will all see people for who they really are, even you.
11:00 am on May 19th, 2010
Yeah I’d trade him to Boston. Florida doesn’t need players like him.
11:07 am on May 19th, 2010
Let him sit. Its time to let these players know who pays them.
11:21 am on May 19th, 2010
Hanley we take you for our team any time and you don’t have to kill yourself to show the world your hustle,just try and if you think you can not get to the ball stop we want you healthy for the next game. Please ask for a trade.
11:23 am on May 19th, 2010
He just ran into a Cuban wall, he tought Freddi will cope with this for a long time but Freddi has the cojones to put a stop to it…way to go Freddi you got my support
12:19 pm on May 19th, 2010
If the manager doesnt have the right to set someone down at his dicression then you need a new front office
12:32 pm on May 19th, 2010
“Dominican” is not a race! It is a cultural group defined by country. There are African Dominicains, Sorthern Asian Dominicians, Southern Asian Dominicians and there might even be American Dominicans (and not American as defined as country) These are races.
To say Dominicains are anything is not racist, it is maybe nationalistic or even discriminatory but not racist. To say whites (caucasoids) are bigoted is racist.
Trade the slackard because you can not win with arrogant Dominicians or any other nationality - case in point Boston and Garciaparra
1:01 pm on May 19th, 2010
I agree totally with Fredi and Helms!! I cant believe Hanley is acting like this. I have been a Marlins fan since moving down here 9 yrs ago. I always thought Hanley was a team player, seems to me that Fredi had to bring him back to earth and if he has to bench him for the whole season so be it. Go Marlins and Go Fredi . ” Que bola asere!!!
1:28 pm on May 19th, 2010
Hey send Hanley our way. We put up with Barry Bonds for years so we can handle a guy like Hanley. Some of you ought to take a shin shot like that and run 100%. Maybe that manager should stand there and let a 95mph pop off his leg and go joggin his mouth. I bet half of you never ever played any ball. Is fantasy baseball considered ball? Just shut the hell up about race and all the stupid,biggot puke that comes out of your fat balded headed mouths.
3:13 pm on May 19th, 2010
@Who Cares
Even as a white dude I would have to think there are more disadvantages to being a minority than advantages? I mean a 5% bump to contractors. Wow! Does that make up the 15%+ pay discrepency between Whites and minorities who do the same job? I mean come on racial profiling, disproportionate amount of minorities in prison, the less than 1% of minorities who are CEO’s. No offense but I wouldn’t trade my pigment or lack of to be a brotha.
Race/nationality/ethnicity shouldn’t even be a topic of discussion when it comes to Ramirez. He’s Domican and he’s lazy. Drop the Dominican part and its simple. Hanley Ramirez is lazy.