Comments on: Is Canseco Trying To Tell Us Cal Ripken Juiced? http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360 Celebrity sports gossip since 2001 Mon, 13 Feb 2012 12:18:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Mark http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-167217 Mark Mon, 18 Jan 2010 21:58:55 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-167217 imagine how many home runs Ruth would have hit if he hadn't been drinking every night and being so overweight. There're a million things that could have changed someone's stats. What about the pitchers? If they're on steroids, would've been unfair if the hitters weren't also, right? So maybe that balances out the field. Otherwise, we could've said, "Well, Ruth wasn't batting against 'roided up pitchers, so then maybe he would've hit only 500 home runs." imagine how many home runs Ruth would have hit if he hadn’t been drinking every night and being so overweight. There’re a million things that could have changed someone’s stats. What about the pitchers? If they’re on steroids, would’ve been unfair if the hitters weren’t also, right? So maybe that balances out the field. Otherwise, we could’ve said, “Well, Ruth wasn’t batting against ‘roided up pitchers, so then maybe he would’ve hit only 500 home runs.”

]]> By: B-Mac http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-111420 B-Mac Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:13:57 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-111420 Nothing would surprise me but at the same token I don't care anymore!!!!!!!!!!!! Just put the whole list out so ESPN and everyone can do nothing but cover it for a month or two and get it over with. Releasing one person at a time means that it's going to cover every athlete for a month Mommy, make this story go away. I'm tired of steroid talk Nothing would surprise me but at the same token I don’t care anymore!!!!!!!!!!!! Just put the whole list out so ESPN and everyone can do nothing but cover it for a month or two and get it over with. Releasing one person at a time means that it’s going to cover every athlete for a month

Mommy, make this story go away. I’m tired of steroid talk

]]> By: Seeking an edge http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-111344 Seeking an edge Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:14:33 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-111344 One final thought: Imagine how many home runs Babe Ruth would have hit if he was on steroids. I say 85-100 in a good year. Maybe more. One final thought: Imagine how many home runs Babe Ruth would have hit if he was on steroids. I say 85-100 in a good year. Maybe more.

]]> By: Seeking an edge http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110817 Seeking an edge Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:48:42 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110817 If pitchers like Roger Clemens took steroids to get a higher percentage of batters out and hitters took them to help their teams score more runs, then it seems to me that the playing field was leveled out. The players that were hurt were the ones who weren't juicing, but if steroids were widely used then either the players who excelled were a.) either better than the other guys (who were also juicing) or b.) they learned to use steroids better. I remember Jeff Bagwell said one time that he worked out hard and used whatever was available and he still wasn't hitting 60 HR's a year. I believe competitiveness, pride and greed led them to cheat. The owners and commissioner are smart people and must have noticed that half the league's players were developing superhuman bodies. I say the writers should vote players into the Hall of Fame that were having monster careers before they started doping and leave the other ones out. If pitchers like Roger Clemens took steroids to get a higher percentage of batters out and hitters took them to help their teams score more runs, then it seems to me that the playing field was leveled out.

The players that were hurt were the ones who weren’t juicing, but if steroids were widely used then either the players who excelled were a.) either better than the other guys (who were also juicing) or b.) they learned to use steroids better.

I remember Jeff Bagwell said one time that he worked out hard and used whatever was available and he still wasn’t hitting 60 HR’s a year.

I believe competitiveness, pride and greed led them to cheat. The owners and commissioner are smart people and must have noticed that half the league’s players were developing superhuman bodies.

I say the writers should vote players into the Hall of Fame that were having monster careers before they started doping and leave the other ones out.

]]> By: LAprGuy http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110792 LAprGuy Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:20:58 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110792 I did a bad editing job above, but to finish the thought, Canseco's main message points of warning now are: - I'm not naming names. - It's ludicrous to vote "against" players who have taken PEDs, because you are likely voting FOR players who have taken PEDs. - Baseball is going to have a problem when some stars who took PEDs - but were never accused of doing so - end up in the HOF. I did a bad editing job above, but to finish the thought, Canseco’s main message points of warning now are:
- I’m not naming names.
- It’s ludicrous to vote “against” players who have taken PEDs, because you are likely voting FOR players who have taken PEDs.
- Baseball is going to have a problem when some stars who took PEDs - but were never accused of doing so - end up in the HOF.

]]> By: LAprGuy http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110791 LAprGuy Fri, 31 Jul 2009 21:16:44 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110791 Brooks - Not sure that the quote you've pulled and what Canseco is saying are necessarily linked ... that is, having listened to the interview a couple of times, I got the sense he's referring to "players on the list" in a hypothetical sense looking forward -- that it's possible some persons from the list may end up in the HOF. That is, seeing as how we don't know who's on the list, but that Jose and other players know a large % of all players were using, then it's possible some players from that list may become HOFers. "Let's assume that there are one or two players in the HOF who are on the list," he says, in order to set up his statement that there may be a problem baseball will have later: That the writers, et. al., who are refusing to vote for alleged steroid users may find that they are voting for others who will later be found to have been on said list It didn't sound, to me, that he was really meaning the someone from that 2003 list is already there. Brooks - Not sure that the quote you’ve pulled and what Canseco is saying are necessarily linked … that is, having listened to the interview a couple of times, I got the sense he’s referring to “players on the list” in a hypothetical sense looking forward — that it’s possible some persons from the list may end up in the HOF.

That is, seeing as how we don’t know who’s on the list, but that Jose and other players know a large % of all players were using, then it’s possible some players from that list may become HOFers.

“Let’s assume that there are one or two players in the HOF who are on the list,” he says, in order to set up his statement that there may be a problem baseball will have later: That the writers, et. al., who are refusing to vote for alleged steroid users may find that they are voting for others who will later be found to have been on said list

It didn’t sound, to me, that he was really meaning the someone from that 2003 list is already there.

]]> By: teddyballgame http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110719 teddyballgame Fri, 31 Jul 2009 16:00:08 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110719 There's no way Ripken could be the guy Canseco is talking about. Ripken retired in 2001. I'm not saying he didn't do it (nothing would surprise me) but he can't be on the 2003 list. There’s no way Ripken could be the guy Canseco is talking about. Ripken retired in 2001. I’m not saying he didn’t do it (nothing would surprise me) but he can’t be on the 2003 list.

]]> By: Sd http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110696 Sd Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:18:44 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110696 I think Ripken used steroids. All those years, and no injuries? I think Ripken used steroids. All those years, and no injuries?

]]> By: Bobaloo http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110688 Bobaloo Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:38:12 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110688 Tony Gwynn did hit 43 HR, 31% of his career total between 1997 and 1999. So...................idk. Tony Gwynn did hit 43 HR, 31% of his career total between 1997 and 1999. So……………….idk.

]]> By: Bobaloo http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110685 Bobaloo Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:30:41 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/is-canseco-trying-to-tell-us-cal-ripken-juiced-25360#comment-110685 Why does Canseco choose to not tell? He's teasing us...that asshole. Why does Canseco choose to not tell? He’s teasing us…that asshole.

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