Comments on: Shift Happens: The A-11 Offense Is New, Improved http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015 Celebrity sports gossip since 2001 Fri, 25 May 2012 14:28:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: jake http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-419896 jake Mon, 15 Aug 2011 17:34:25 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-419896 Look I have seen the video. While it is a fun offense the traditional defense was able to stop it. someone will come up with a creative defense to match it. I was thinking a 2 5 4 defense to help contain the rush threat and support the wide threat at the edges. I like the A11 especially when dealing with high school since it give smaller schools an opportunity to compete more competitively. I think the big problem is the way they handled exploited the loophole and the NHSF snobbed it. I think if they had approached the NHSF first and said we need to be able to compete against these bigger teams. This is how plan on doing it. Let us try it out a season and if people adopt it why not Look I have seen the video. While it is a fun offense the traditional defense was able to stop it. someone will come up with a creative defense to match it. I was thinking a 2 5 4 defense to help contain the rush threat and support the wide threat at the edges. I like the A11 especially when dealing with high school since it give smaller schools an opportunity to compete more competitively. I think the big problem is the way they handled exploited the loophole and the NHSF snobbed it. I think if they had approached the NHSF first and said we need to be able to compete against these bigger teams. This is how plan on doing it. Let us try it out a season and if people adopt it why not

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120617 Anonymous Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:49:53 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120617 "That’s not breaking the rules at all. Just as running a fake punt for a first down is not breaking the rules. If you run a fake punt, you had “no intention of kicking or punting while in that formation” as well. You’re simply trying to fool the defense." The point of the scrimmage kick formation being legal for punts is that it allows you to get players on the field who can cover kicks and they don't have to have lineman numbers. Saying they were breaking the rules at the time may not be the best way to put it. They were using one rule to get around another. Hence the reason for more defined rules. “That’s not breaking the rules at all. Just as running a fake punt for a first down is not breaking the rules. If you run a fake punt, you had “no intention of kicking or punting while in that formation” as well. You’re simply trying to fool the defense.”

The point of the scrimmage kick formation being legal for punts is that it allows you to get players on the field who can cover kicks and they don’t have to have lineman numbers. Saying they were breaking the rules at the time may not be the best way to put it. They were using one rule to get around another. Hence the reason for more defined rules.

]]> By: Rick Chandler http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120558 Rick Chandler Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:55:26 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120558 I'm sorry, did you want the five-minute argument, or the full 30 minutes? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM You damn kids and your pot and your spread punt formations. Get off my lawn! I’m sorry, did you want the five-minute argument, or the full 30 minutes?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teMlv3ripSM

You damn kids and your pot and your spread punt formations. Get off my lawn!

]]> By: hmm http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120548 hmm Fri, 11 Sep 2009 16:33:53 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120548 the a11 is exploiting the punt/kicking rule and using for it something it was not intended for. after learning more about the a11, i think it is garbage. not surprised it was voted down 46-2. but this means more rules will be needed as these coaches find more loopholes. Basically it is rare to see it in: college. it can only be used on 4th down or when punting/kicking is expected. nfl, due to player number requirements. the rules are more relaxed in high school, but this offense may force changes to that similar to college and the nfl. dont like it because it is based on playing games with players jersey numbers and trying to mislead the defense. and it is not the same as a fake punt. learn about the rules and understand the importance of integrity of the game. the a11 is exploiting the punt/kicking rule and using for it something it was not intended for.

after learning more about the a11, i think it is garbage.
not surprised it was voted down 46-2. but this means more rules will be needed as these coaches find more loopholes.

Basically it is rare to see it in:
college. it can only be used on 4th down or when punting/kicking is expected.

nfl, due to player number requirements.

the rules are more relaxed in high school, but this offense may force changes to that similar to college and the nfl.

dont like it because it is based on playing games with players jersey numbers and trying to mislead the defense.

and it is not the same as a fake punt. learn about the rules and understand the importance of integrity of the game.

]]> By: kotite http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120537 kotite Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:41:13 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120537 there is such a thing as going to far and turning the game into a freak show. i dont know if this offense will do that. however... it will be interesting to see what happens as the game continues to evolve. maybe this will result in 300 lb linemen no longer being needed. or more strict rules to keep the integrity of the game in place. a game without structure + rules, becomes more like a pickup game that is boring to watch. which what this offense may make the sport look like. i need to see more. there is such a thing as going to far and turning the game into a freak show. i dont know if this offense will do that. however…

it will be interesting to see what happens as the game continues to evolve. maybe this will result in 300 lb linemen no longer being needed. or more strict rules to keep the integrity of the game in place.

a game without structure + rules, becomes more like a pickup game that is boring to watch. which what this offense may make the sport look like. i need to see more.

]]> By: Rick Chandler http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120533 Rick Chandler Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:28:59 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120533 That's not breaking the rules at all. Just as running a fake punt for a first down is not breaking the rules. If you run a fake punt, you had "no intention of kicking or punting while in that formation" as well. You're simply trying to fool the defense. That’s not breaking the rules at all. Just as running a fake punt for a first down is not breaking the rules. If you run a fake punt, you had “no intention of kicking or punting while in that formation” as well. You’re simply trying to fool the defense.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120521 Anonymous Fri, 11 Sep 2009 14:39:06 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120521 Actually, teams using A-11 were breaking the rules. They would line up in a "scrimmage kick" formation with all 11 players in elegible numbers. The scrimmage kick formation was intended for kicking and punting. The A-11 teams had no intention of kicking or punting when in this formation, they simply were trying to fool defenses by breaking the rules. Actually, teams using A-11 were breaking the rules. They would line up in a “scrimmage kick” formation with all 11 players in elegible numbers. The scrimmage kick formation was intended for kicking and punting. The A-11 teams had no intention of kicking or punting when in this formation, they simply were trying to fool defenses by breaking the rules.

]]> By: Rick Chandler http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120454 Rick Chandler Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:37:58 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120454 Traditionalist coaches were saying that it's a gimmick, and not in the spirit of the game. And since the NHSF is largely made up of like-thinking former coaches, you get a ban. Traditionalist coaches were saying that it’s a gimmick, and not in the spirit of the game. And since the NHSF is largely made up of like-thinking former coaches, you get a ban.

]]> By: Freezer http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120432 Freezer Fri, 11 Sep 2009 06:43:26 +0000 http://www.sportsbybrooks.com/despite-efforts-to-kill-it-the-a-11-offense-is-back-26015#comment-120432 So why, exactly, does the NHSF want the A-11 banned? It's not like you need an all-star roster to run it. So why, exactly, does the NHSF want the A-11 banned? It’s not like you need an all-star roster to run it.

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