Carroll, Harbaugh Want To Know What The Deal Is

Two years ago, Jim Harbaugh and Stanford buried USC’s hopes at a national title, 23-21, in what’s largely believed to be the biggest upset against the point spread in college football history. Last year, USC went to Palo Alto and won 45-23 in a game that got a little coach-chippy with some unnecessary scoring in the final minutes, with Pete Carroll telling reporters that he “doesn’t care what [Harbaugh] does.” Mr. Carroll, it might be time to start caring.

Jim Harbaugh Pete Carroll
(What’s the deal?” “No, what’s your deal?” “No, what’s YOUR deal?” “No, YOUR deal…”)

It’s a toss-up whether to characterize last weekend’s 55-21 score as “misleading”; on one hand, Stanford absolutely put it on USC, running all over the Trojans for the entire game. On the other, it was still a 7-point game in the fourth quarter before the Cardinal broke it open; in fact, if last year’s late scoring was a misdemeanor, this was a gross felony, with Harbaugh even going for 2 late to try to hang 50 on the Trojans. Carroll, as you can imagine, was unamused.

From Ray Ratto of the SAN FRANCISCO CHRONICLE:

“What’s your deal? What’s your deal?” Carroll said, according to two sources near enough to hear.

“What’s your deal?” Harbaugh retorted, and that was that.

Now there’s the brevity of wit for you. It is also evidence of what will be a lingering dislike-a-thon between the two men, punctuated by Harbaugh’s impish yet gratuitous two-point conversion attempt after Stanford’s seventh - yes, seventh - touchdown. It looked like what it was, Harbaugh putting a knee in Carroll’s exposed coaching nethers.

On one hand, that’d be a dick move even if it were two people playing Xbox against each other. Pete Carroll probably had his feelings genuinely hurt for about 10 minutes after the game before making up his mind to get even. If Harbaugh has a wife, consider her already slept with–perhaps even in the unholiest of holies. Depends on how vindictive Carroll’s feeling.

All that said, this is the same USC team that was routinely scoring 40, 50, sometimes over 60 points on its conference brethren, turning the Pac-10 into a de facto Pac-1-and-the-9-Dwarves over the course of the decade. Seeing the Trojan defense get scorched for over 100 points in just its past two games must be satisfying for the rest of the conference, even if a bit unsporting.

The real question is whether it’s going to matter if Harbaugh just made Carroll’s and USC’s eternal sh*tlist. While Carroll’s not the kind of guy who’s going to hold a grudge and dwell on negativity - that’s not his thing, y’know - he certainly is the kind of guy who’s going to use this curb-stomping as a motivational point for his Trojans over the next, say, 363 days.

But who’s to say that motivation’s going to work? It sure is weird to see the Trojans as the team getting bullied and not doing the bullying. We’ll see if they’ve got the mental fortitude to bounce back from such a big loss. If the Stanford game is an indication of how they handled the Oregon loss, um, that’s not a good sign.

9 comments

  1. GravatarCthulhu is a Pussy
    12:54 pm on November 16th, 2009

    Awwwww, Coach Carroll got a taste of his own medicine. Drink up, Pete!

  2. GravatarRick
    1:45 pm on November 16th, 2009

    What? NO youtube clip to show the handshake.

  3. GravatarKjetil Vidar-Haraldstad
    1:45 pm on November 16th, 2009

    Scorched for over 100 points in 2 of last 3 games. Check your facts, blog boy.

  4. Gravatarerik
    2:23 pm on November 16th, 2009

    Seriously??? USC is complaining about someone running up the score on them? And someone running a sports blog has the balls to call this “unsporting”? Give me a f-ing break. Schools like USC, Texas, Ohio St., Florida, etc. should NEVER be allowed to bitch about getting kicked in the teeth — especially when the team doing the kicking has been a frequent recipient of similar behavior in the past. I have no personal stake in either of these teams and never thought much about Pete Carroll, but now I have to say I would be embarrassed if my team was coached by such a hypocrite.

  5. GravatarBJ
    3:48 pm on November 16th, 2009

    erik, you refer to the same Texas team that tries so hard to not run up the score so as to fault themselves in the eyes of the pollsters. The ones that were up 40-0 at half and finished the game at 47 and took Colt McCoy out with a minute left in the third quarter. I hate Carroll as much as the next guy but don’t make stupid generalizations.

  6. GravatarMark in So Cal
    6:15 pm on November 16th, 2009

    I keep reading where SC ran up the score on people. Can someone tell me where theyve done that? Ive seen them play a lot of games and when theyre ahead they run the ball, never throw deep.

    I know Carroll doesnt kick field goals but thats not the same thing has trying for 2 or throwing long when up by 30.

  7. Gravatardavec
    6:27 pm on November 16th, 2009

    great to see some payback, always fun to see the bully cry when it happens to him, couldn’t happen to a more deserving college team.

  8. GravatarIgnatz
    11:54 pm on November 16th, 2009

    Mark, get serious… USC’s good, but’s been arrogant in it’s scoring for years. So, keeping stalling out at +35 points late in the 4th and hope to not look like complete a-holes, but nobody buys it except USC fans. My cat likes playing with a mouse too, but I stop it - it’s no sport.

  9. GravatarEric
    3:45 pm on November 21st, 2009

    Jim Harbaugh has a personality disorder. Moreover, his lack of class does not represent Stanford University or his alma mater, University of Michigan, very well. He will be better off representing an NFL team next year. Good riddance.

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