A wide-ranging FBI investigation into political corruption in Alabama allegedly perpetrated by a prominent Auburn booster and casino owner took some interesting turns today.
(FBI-wiretapped Auburn booster pleads to attend Auburn BCS game)
The Auburn booster, Milton McGregor, will stand trial on April 4 on charges that he attempted to buy the influence of state politicians. If convicted on all charges, McGregor faces 285 years in a federal penitentiary and $4.5 million in fines.
McGregor is currently out on $500,000 bail and today asked federal judge Terry Moorer for a 72-hour pass to Arizona to attend Auburn’s BCS Championship Game against Oregon on January 10.
The Auburn booster’s request was promptly granted.
On November 17, 2010, TMZ.com reported, “the FBI investigation into the cash for Cam Newton scandal now involves a guy who gave more than $1 million to Auburn University … and was recently arrested in a bribery sting.”
More:
According to sources connected to the probe … FBI agents looking into the Newton recruiting controversy are also asking about Milton McGregor — a dog track owner arrested last month for allegedly bribing Alabama politicians to vote pro gambling.
We’re told agents asked someone connected to the Newton case if he was familiar with McGregor or the bribery scandal.
McGregor subsequently denied that he had any connection to Newton’s recruitment.
Last Friday I reported that one of McGregor’s co-defendants in the same federal case, Auburn alumnus and lobbyist Robert Geddie, fired his personal attorney three weeks ago while retaining Auburn’s lead NCAA defense attorney since 1991, Sam Franklin.
In exchange for his political lobbying duties on behalf of Auburn, Geddie’s firm has reportedly been paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in recent years from a private Auburn Athletics fund called Tigers Unlimited.
Today another McGregor co-defendant in the federal case, Auburn alumnus and lobbyist Jarrod Massey, pled guilty to the six charges leveled against him by the FBI.
The MOBILE PRESS-REGISTER noted of the plea reversal:
Massey’s plea likely will send shockwaves through the defense camps of the other defendants in the case, many of whom have said they will fight the charges and that there was no undue legislative influence in the bingo vote.
Early pleas can be a sign that a defendant has agreed to cooperate with federal prosecutors and testify against fellow defendants in return for leniency from the court system.
Depending on Massey’s level of cooperation with the Feds, today’s plea could be bad news for McGregor and Geddie, to say the least.
So while McGregor has denied any involvement in providing financial enticements to Auburn athletes over the years, news of the FBI’s interest in the Cam Newton situation and McGregor’s well-publicized request to associate himself with Auburn’s crowning football achievement does little to diminish the suspicion that the FBI could soon weigh in on the state of Auburn athletics.
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7:24 pm on December 20th, 2010
Once the FBI is done with it’s due diligence, the incompetent NCAA will have no choice but to take action against Auburn. This will make the SMU scandal look like $20 handshakes.
7:25 pm on December 20th, 2010
War Eagle !
7:40 pm on December 20th, 2010
War Cam Eagle !
7:41 pm on December 20th, 2010
The fat lady is warming up!
7:58 pm on December 20th, 2010
Enjoy it Auburn while you can the hammer is coming. Roll Tide and Go Ducks!
8:07 pm on December 20th, 2010
For all you Auburn haters, they have done nothing wrong which has already been proven by the NCAA. Most just can not stand because Bama is not in the lime light. So deal with it.
8:30 pm on December 20th, 2010
Correct, auburn has not done anything wrong….but if you play a kid who compromised his amatuer status as he did this before the season then he is ineligilbe to play all 13 games. The NCAA did say that he compromised his status. Auburn just wasn’t big enough to do the right thing before the season and declare him ineligble. If they had done that in August and the NCAA had ruled him eligible it would be over…but what made him ineligible in November also made him ineligible in September, October and November. AU will eventually have to vacate all those wins
8:40 pm on December 20th, 2010
*sarcasm*
8:49 pm on December 20th, 2010
I talk with my source within the au ad today. The mood has changed. Were our boosters this stupid. I don’t know how to feel. We’ve been lied to. I deserve the crow that I have coming to me. Sorry brooks.
8:50 pm on December 20th, 2010
I must admit there is one thing which puzzles me, why hasn’t Cam Newton’s father sued? So far, the only apparent evidence is the word of a MSU alum and his friends…and nothing else! And Newton didn’t go to MSU! It could be he is waiting for Cam to go professional before filing a lawsuit, but considering how much hatred is out there and what has been done, I believe any court in the land would find the NCAA and perhaps MSU guilty unless they have some truly solid evidence outside of known liars and thieves. The NCAA made a statement that Newton “shopped” his son (only to MSU and the agent doing everything was an MSU grad). News accounts have said Auburn has agreed with that finding, that’s a blatant lie, Auburn accepted the findings - meaning they were not fighting them so they could apply for reinstatement - made Cam ineligible as per NCAA rules and filed to have him reinstated since there were zero findings against him; and as has happened many times before this, the NCAA reinstated him. Many people have said Cam’s father admitted it, NO he has not and there is zero evidence to support the claim except what comes from people associated with the school where Cam Newton Did Not play whose head coach is an ex Florida assistant who was passed over for the vacant head coaching job at Florida. In the case of Reggie Bush, the NCAA was made aware of the issues during Bush’s sophomore year and they buried it and it stayed buried until a little known website published the information on the house his parents were living in. Later lawsuits verified Bush’s involvement and the involvement of his family in the acceptance of over $200,000 in cash and benefits paid to Bush and/or his family. No money or benefits have been traced in Newton’s case, the father is NOT living a lifestyle beyond his means, Cam is not driving a new Porsche or Land Rover and the only, ONLY people providing any information about the situation are either anonymous or affiliated with Mississippi State University (an institution with a history of cheating). If Newton is guilty, fine, make him ineligible and take away Auburn’s victories, etc. I could care less; however, first come up with some actual information or facts supported by something other that known liars and thieves with attachments to MSU. And to Cam’s father, I suggest you hire a lawyer and begin to put everything in order to file a massive lawsuit against the NCAA as soon as your son leaves the NCAA sphere of influence! (Unless the NCAA has some real evidence they haven’t released but it is highly unlikely - that is why they reinstated Cam to minimize damages to prevent a lawsuit but to have Congress openly act in the manner they have certainly show major damages inflicted by the NCAA and certainly should allow his father to file a massive suit against the NCAA and MSU - but it should be noted MSU has gone to great lengths to state they are not involved and have not made any accusations themselves!)
8:56 pm on December 20th, 2010
From $180,000 to asking for $0? Sure …… LOL!
8:59 pm on December 20th, 2010
I didn’t post *sarcasm * the news in heard is not good.
9:27 pm on December 20th, 2010
Brooks,
You might even consider talking with South Carolina’s Marcus Lattimore’s mother. I read some article recently where auburn’s recruiting coordinator kept telling his mother they would do anything it took — “whatever it takes.”
She knew exactly what auburn was up to doing. There was really very little reading between the lines in the article. She was basically stating that auburn was sleazy.
9:28 pm on December 20th, 2010
ColonelTom - your post is very good, however I have heard a little differently. Have heard that Charles McWhorter, or McWhorter Consturction (another involved in the McGregor FBI situation) is the individual and company that has actually made the repairs to Cecil Newton’s church.
Also have heard that Cecil does have a new Ford F-150 that appears to be fully loaded, with an average price tag of $50,000. Not saying that they could afford this, or it could be a lease, but they have said in the SI acticle that the cost of the type of vehicle would be outside of their means.
All could be BS, but just seems to be a little too much smoke.
9:30 pm on December 20th, 2010
Since SMU’s death penalty in the 80″s has there been at 6 schools under investigation for the same thing. Why haven’t they got the same punishment. Maybe the state legislatures in all 50 states should scrap all athletic scholarships and /or inter school athletics. This way these kids can go pro and not waste taxpayer’s dollars on stadiums, cars, homes and parties. Isn’t the real reason they go to college is for the “Education”. No football, no alcohol, no drugs = reading, writing and arithmatic.
9:34 pm on December 20th, 2010
Richz, Hard to throw stones and call MSU liars, so far nothing they said has been proven false. Cecil Newton on the other hand has lied and then confessed. Or is his confession actually the whole truth? Hard to tell when it is a fact he has lied at least 50% of the time.
Honestly Rich how can you place any faith on a man who tried to sell his Son, lied about doing it and then suddenly had a change of heart and then “fessed up”. Now you and the rest of the delusional Barn Nation would have us believe he is now completely and totally honest. Give me a F…ing break.
9:49 pm on December 20th, 2010
Richz,
Why do you think the SEC Coaches voted Steve Spurrier Coach of the Year ahead of Chiz? No way that happens Chiz on paper is a unanimous choice. He is 13-0 and beat Spurrier TWICE. This is clearly a message telling Chiz “We know how you did it and no way in hell do we approve”. Barn fans would have us believe what? Jealousy?
9:54 pm on December 20th, 2010
Richz…..seriously, do you honestly believe that mess. Did you listen to the au/ncaa/sec press conference for the reinstatment. Everyone agreed with the findings of the NCAA, that Cecil shopped his son. They found a loophole by claiming Cecil acted as the agent for his son (not Rodgers which is more truthful) to get his eligability back. If Rodgers is the agent = ineligable. Do you listen to anything coming from anywhere but boog-ville. Every conference commishoner and AD is pizzed and has let the NCAA know. Slive and ua has made the SEC look more like everyones opinion of us. Win at all cost. It will be vacated and sanctions are coming. $cam will be gone and au will be buried. Pat Dyes fingerprints are all over this. Dont want to hear, ” dont punish the team for one persons mistake”. The entire team is benifiting. They are a 4-5 loss team without $cam.
10:01 pm on December 20th, 2010
Keep up the good work. AU is the most corrupt program in the history. Their past dictates that if they are winning, they are cheating. All the nation will soon see just how Cam was bought and paid for.
10:02 pm on December 20th, 2010
Should say “in NCAA” history. AU is one sorry, low-life, cheating program!
10:07 pm on December 20th, 2010
First off, the FBI has no real Cam Newton probe. They have bigger fish to fry here. They used the Cam Newton allegations to take a different direction to get evidence against these guys.
Secondly, if the FBI finds out anything in the wire taps, they cannot release them publicly, which means to the NCAA. The FBI protects their tapes and how they get them. They will play the tapes to a closed jury.
Thirdly, why in the hell are we all reading an article where the only source is a TMZ article from Nov. 17th where the source is not named. TMZ is a paparazzi crap show that is no more reliable than the National Enquirer.
10:12 pm on December 20th, 2010
Auburn is not the most corrupt program in history. They do have 7 major violations but they’re spread across different sports. Arizona St. is actually the most corrupt with 8 violations. There is someone else there too.
They also have not had a major violation in over 15 years. SMU had major violations while they were on probation for major violations. That is why they got the death penalty.
Auburn also has hired one of the best NCAA investigators as their NCAA compliance officer. He was hired to ensure the Pat Dye booster era does not happen again. Does that mean it didn’t? No. But there’s also no proof it did.
Everyone knows Rogers was a crook. This whole pay for play scandal took off before Auburn even began recruiting Newton. Also, Newton barely won the starting job over Barrett Trotter. Look at his spring game numbers. Newton didn’t even start that well this year. He really didn’t start kicking ass until South Carolina game. I highly doubt Auburn would have paid for a QB who was only recruited by 4 schools, who had a history of issues, and who didn’t even show enough to be named the outright starter right away.
10:15 pm on December 20th, 2010
Auburn Has history of cheating
10:49 pm on December 20th, 2010
i think i hear dandydon warming up TURN OUT THE LIGHTS THE PARTY’S OVER! Sham your gig is almost up.hey barners live it up while you can.Sham’s wonderlic test over under 11 points maybe he can have somebody else take it and he can just sign his name.
11:01 pm on December 20th, 2010
Where to begin? First of all, most of you are complete idiots! Not to mention this rediculous article that in no way implicates Auburn. Answer these questions and I’ll apologize and shut up:
McGregor gave $1 mil to Troy also..does this make them guilty?
Why was MSU booster Bell’s phone that held damaging texts damaged by water? Give me a freaking break!
Who were the intermediaries between MSU booster John Bond and Kenny Rogers? He admitted there were two…were these the coaches that Rogers said was at the lunch among them, Rogers and Cecil?
Why were MSU boosters involved at all unless MSU was trying to find the money?
Why did MSU continue to recruit Cam after these incidents? And why did MSU not report these incidents until AFTER CAM signed with Auburn? Were these incidents not violations when they occurred?
I have more, but these are enough…answer them if you can!
11:17 pm on December 20th, 2010
auburn fans and cam still can’t even own up to that fact cam stole that computer. he is clearly quoted as saying such in his police report… you are all delusional
11:23 pm on December 20th, 2010
Your a wishful blogging douche. Nothing more. Your drawing connections on your own and reporting them as facts. You said yourself that the attorney was hired by a defendant and then argued it shows a connection to AU? YOU’LL PROBABLY DELETE THIS POST LIKE YOU DID MY LAST ONE. NICE. FULL OF INTEGRITY.
11:34 pm on December 20th, 2010
ahole, excuse me, ehole, answer the questions! You can’t, all you can do is spout long past incidents. And, if you want to be a REAL defender of college values why don’t you get on Notre Dame..a school that had a player sexually assault a young women who was so tramatized that she committed suicide. OR, try taking your talents to the Boise State receiver that was arrested for raping young temmates with objects. Now, THESE are stories you could sink your teeth into!
11:42 pm on December 20th, 2010
@ Kyleok was auburn admitting these things to the ncaa and declaring cam ineligible not enough for you to realize that shit happened?
11:43 pm on December 20th, 2010
ehole, even I admit that these things happened…at Mississippi State! Cecil is not an Auburn alum or booster. Again, I ask you to answer my questions if you can. Look, if the NCAA had ruled any other way, I could claim to be a respresenatative of some young player and solicit money from a university. That would ruin the kid! Let’s look at more important issues than a young man buying a hot computer..refer to the above post.
11:48 pm on December 20th, 2010
kyle nobody from notre dame or boise state talk about how great those players are or defend them till they are blue in the face. they will admit those players are scum… why won’t you?
11:51 pm on December 20th, 2010
most schools try to distance themselves from coaches who pay players… at auburn they put their name on their stadium. stay classy auburn
11:54 pm on December 20th, 2010
Auburn has done nothing wrong? One dam thing is for sure….it pays to give your money to the church…
11:59 pm on December 20th, 2010
It’s amazing how knowledgeable you guys are. The SEC and the NCAA didn’t need to investigate Cam, they should have just asked all you HATERS out there. You all must be BAMA fans. Dis Bama not have their own scandal? How soon we forget. Stop hating and appreciate. WAR EAGLE!!!!!!!
12:04 am on December 21st, 2010
They say history repeats itsself. For those Auburn Fans they should look back to 1956!
12:11 am on December 21st, 2010
This story is so stupid…i don’t understand why it’s getting all this publicity…on another note, did you see the ballsack hanging from that fat dude’s chin…hahahahaha
12:12 am on December 21st, 2010
nobody cares about this story
12:20 am on December 21st, 2010
Anonymous, here’s what I don’t get about people like you…there is NO evidence that Auburn paid any money! If its proven that they did, you won’t hear another peep from me. Until then, we can’t an an intelligent conversation. I challenge you and all others on this blog to answer my questions (posted above). ALSO, no, Notre Dame and Boise aren’t defending their players, but the media wants to crucify Cam, and there is almost nothing in stories about these allegations! Bottom line, you have no facts implicating Auburn or Cam, and neither does the FBI, NCAA, or anyone else.
12:22 am on December 21st, 2010
To all you Cam-haters out there: If you want to sound like you’re making a valid point, rather than just hating on a team you don’t like, then you should leave the cheap (and not particularly clever) jabs like “cow college”, “Au-Barn”, etc. out of your comment. As it is, you just sound like a p*ssed off Bammer. The only theft you care about is Auburn stealing your limelight.
That being said, why is it that so much hatred is being directed toward Cam himself? Even if these allegations prove to be true, and even if money changed hands, where did it likely go? To fix up Cecil’s church. Not exactly at the top of the typical 20-year-old’s wishlist, is it? As the son of a preacher myself, I can assure you, at that age, I didn’t even want to go to my dad’s church, much less sell out my football career to fix it. Perhaps Cam did know about the deal, but even if he did, what is his big crime? Protecting his dad, rather than standing up to him. How many of us wouldn’t do the same for our fathers? I couldn’t have stood up to my old man at age 20. I don’t know that I could do it now.
If all this ends up being true, that means Cecil Newton sold out his son’s future to pay for his church. He risked his son being declared ineligible to play, he made his son the subject of ridicule, investigation, and insults from all over the country. All for money for his church. It seems unforgivable to me. But if Cam’s feeling for his father are what they seem to be, he will forgive his dad anyway, and will continue to stand by the old man’s side, despite all the damage he caused.
Cam Newton should not necessarily be praised for his loyalty to his family, but should he be crucified for it? Because he is being put through hell for an action that, even if he knew about, he obviously had no part in putting together. Because I promise you, had this been Cam’s idea, he would have found something better than daddy’s church to spend the cash on.
So, if it wasn’t his idea, and he didn’t benefit from it, should a 20-year-old kid be punished for not standing up to his father? Because that is what all you Cam-haters are suggesting. And I for one, think that, while the rules do need to be changed and strengthened to prevent the sort of player-shopping that is alleged to have happened here, punishing the son for the sins of the father just isn’t right.
12:30 am on December 21st, 2010
The Barn will go down HOW SWEET IT IS.
12:31 am on December 21st, 2010
Innuendo, innuendo, and more innuendo.
When you don’t have any facts but you want and desire to make someone look bad just infer and insinuate and imply. You don’t need any facts or evidence or documentation. That’s silly.
Guilt by six degrees of indirect association.
I’m surprised that you didn’t mention Regie Bush and SMU in your article. That would have given you more umph in order to paint the picture that you want to paint in the minds of the readers.
This is the most irresponsible “journalism” I have ever seen or read. Typical of Foxsports.com and consistent with other articles on Cam Newton and Auburn by Thayer Evans and other Foxsports.com hacks.
12:39 am on December 21st, 2010
*His Holiness* wins for the most rational post of the thread. Glad to see a couple of people can have a measured, intelligent response to this “story.”
The silly insults are worthless. It destroys any credibility (and makes it hard to take anyone serious).
But to answer the main question about the hatred for Cam: it’s relatively obvious. For journalists, it draws attention and page views. Just look at the side bar on this page. **Brooks is going to publish every story about Cam Newton and Auburn as he possibly can.** If Coach Chizik forgets to flush, rest assured that Brooks will cover it.
And for the non-journalists: we live in a tabloid world. It’s fun to find flaws in celebs. Not to mention, since Cam has beaten so many teams, a number of fans are angry (especially these Alabama fans here). My humble opinion.
12:43 am on December 21st, 2010
pissed, drunk, dombfounded, mad as hell at our ad for letting pat dye anywhere near our program. Chizik is a good mjan who dosen’t deserve this.
12:46 am on December 21st, 2010
Kyole - Here are some answers for you
McGregor gave $1 mil to Troy also..does this make them guilty?
No, but I am certain that there is someone looking into it since McGregor is under investigation
Why was MSU booster Bell’s phone that held damaging texts damaged by water? Give me a freaking break!
Because it got wet
Who were the intermediaries between MSU booster John Bond and Kenny Rogers? He admitted there were two…were these the coaches that Rogers said was at the lunch among them, Rogers and Cecil?
This circumstance is still under investigation and that information will not be disclosed until the investigation is over.
Why were MSU boosters involved at all unless MSU was trying to find the money?
The booster is acting in the benefit of the university not as it’s agent. He was trying to procure the funds through Bonds when the University stopped proceedings.
I am not saying that Auburn or Cam did anything wrong, but there was a scandal involving Cecil and Rodgers. The eligibility question arises due to the fact that the SEC would have to rule him ineligible for the entire SEC, not just the school where the scandal happened.
12:47 am on December 21st, 2010
I love how so many people keep saying “Auburn is going to get theirs” etc etc. I mean it’s kind of sad if you are saying that based on this article, if you can call it that. So somone is now being representing by an Auburn ncaa attorney, who in a crazy scheme to earn a living has multiple clients besides Auburn. Somehow that is news, somehow that means something, but let’s throw up the article from TMZ, which I will not criticize (hell they got the Tiger story right). I will only say read the article for what it is, not what you wish it means. It says the FBI expanded it’s investigation to McGregor right? Right, but that’s the headline, the only meat is that the FBI asked the people it was itnerviewing about him. In a 5-6 hour interview 1-2 questions, like this hardly is expanding the investigation, and more about doing due diligence and possibly fishing for info. The fact that nothing has come out in month probably says all you need to know about that angle. AND something that Alabama fans, and other fanbases who seem to hate Auburn don’t want to comprehend, the FBI doesn’t gives 2 rips about whether Cecil got money. It’s peanuts to them, it’s a broader investigation on sports agents, and has NOTHING to do with the NCAA. The FBI is not the private investigators for the NCAA and going to magically uncover stuff the NCAA missed. IF they found something the public would probably never know, because they are not worried about elligibility etc. Compleltely different goals, rules, and I think it is hope/hate that have the fringe fans on here, talk radio, keeping this story alive with the angle that the FBI will find something on elligibility. They don’t care, they care about agents or McGregor, and he already has his goose cooked. The charges for paying a player (again its charges the FBI cares about, are so small compared to what he is already going to trial for). So please, take a step back, examine the facts, and realize that while you may wish he was inelligble, there was a loophole, it will be closed, but was ruled elligible because of that loophole. What is going on now, if anything, has nothing to do with elligibility/vacating wins etc. and everything to do with the FBI doing some massive agents investigation, in which Rogers is a spec of dust. Cut the rumors, cut the crap, grow up and have intelligent discourse.
12:48 am on December 21st, 2010
Couple things…
For all the Auburn fans that bring up the fact that MSU continued to recruit Cam after the offer was made…why not? Since the SEC and the NCAA decided to ignore their own documented bylaws and keep him eligible, it stands to reason that had he decided to go to MSU instead of Auburn, he’d be eligible there too, right? I mean if the SEC and NCAA are fair across the board then he should have been just as eligible at MSU as he is at Auburn, right? Yeah, right. We all know that if he was just a role player on the team or if Auburn was not in the position they are in he’d be ineligible so fast.
Secondly, it seems as if the Auburn people also like to ignore the fact that Cam very rarely ever mentioned Auburn during the recruiting process and never spoke of Auburn as a possibility after about April, until after November when the offers started being made. Don’t you think that even if he decided to not go to MSU, he likely would have gone to one of the other several schools he had spent time looking at and praising? Like Oklahoma, Arizona, Kansas State, Texas Tech, LSU, Tennessee…all of which he had higher on his list than Auburn?
12:54 am on December 21st, 2010
First of all, MSUVarnardo is right…His Holiness had a great post! And Geof, I will give you credit..you at least tried to answer my questions. I particularly like your answer about why the phone was damaged…lol! That’s a bit like saying that Nixon’s secretary “accidently” erased his tapes, but you may be too young to remember that. However, I think you are missing my point…and that was WHO contacted Bonds? He admitted that he didn’t talk to Rogers directly (Jon Kincaid Radio Program). If these intermediaries were coaches or officials from State, then it looks like they were trying to find the money, doesn’t it? But, as you said, the investigation is ongoing. And we will see what we will see. Yes, the rules need to be changed for agents, family, etc. soliciting money from universities. It is indeed wrong, but again, there is no proof. We don’t live in Salem, Massachusetts in the 1600’s. Burden of proof is what they call it, I think.
12:57 am on December 21st, 2010
For those who like to deal assumptions etc. How about the fact that Chizik had to be convinced to offer then FOUR STAR prospect Newston a scholarship after a coach stumbled upon him LATE in the process while scouting ANOTHER player. This all happened in December. So magically, they craft a plan to “buy” Newton in a week or so, even though there are much bigger fish out there, much bigger needs the team had. But that makes perfect sense, we don’t want this guy, to wow yes we want this guy, and you know what? lets pay him some major money, even though its not position of need and even though he has a checkered past and is not being heavily recrutied. People act like Auburn was recruting Newton the heisman winner, they were not. They were going after a guy that got the boot/left Florida, and limitied options from Juco. While he was highly ranked, he was in the middle of Auburn’s class last year. BUT I’m sure they hatched this plan in a week or so, for the guy who didn’t even win the QB job until after the spring was finished. makes perfect since.
1:11 am on December 21st, 2010
Guys it’s going to get ugly. This is my last post on here. I bleed Orange, but I am a realist. What I was told today changes everything. Our former boosters spilled the beans to cover there tails. Bottom line, everyone has dirty laundry, slive and the sec cover crap up all the time. It royally sux for AU that the fbi got involved. It royally sux that cell phone records of Milton were linked to Bell, and Rodgers. It royally suxs that cecil and cam ran their mouth about an Au offer in front of a msu coach. I’ve said to much, but I really don’t care. I’m going to forget about it and hope that it all goes away and enjoy the NC game. I still hate you bammers, I hate you gullible bol posters that believe every word that comes out of Coach Cochran’s mouth with his dumb stories. I hope you rot in hell.
1:12 am on December 21st, 2010
Auburn sat him. NCAA reinstated him and ruled him eligible already. That was not a meaningless event.
So unless there is some concrete evidence that is discovered that Cam or Auburn did something wrong then Cam remains eligible. Get over it Cam and Auburn haters!
Concrete evidence is not just a bunch of talk and conjecture. It is not just a bunch of ” Yea, but come on now, we really know what happened here” and ” There is just too much smoke”. Well have you ever considered that that smoke might just be from Kenny Rogers crack pipe?
So unless you got some deposit slips, bank statements, cancelled checks, or recorded phone conversations, then get over it. Cam is eligible whether you like it or not.
Also, one other thing that has bothered me about this whole thing - why would Cecil ask for “anywhere between $100,000 and $180,000″ for Cam to play at MS? Why such a broad range? Why a range at all? Why not a set price? Why not “$180,000 or more”? If Cecil wanted $100,000 or more, why cap it off at $180,000? It just doesn’t seem natural to me for a seller to say that he’ll take ” anywhere from $100,000 to $180,000″ for a particular product. It sounds to me like Kenny Rogers was leading Cecil and told him that he thought that he might be able to get “anywhere between $100,000 and $180,000″ for Cecil and that he would have to check with Bill Bell to find out exactly how much they could do.
1:18 am on December 21st, 2010
Arkansas should have played in the SEC Championship game do to all this Auburn pay for play scandal and the fans and players are the ones who got screwed I really do feal for the other Auburn players because there parents or themselves for that matter didnt get paid anything. I am a SEC fan but I hope Auburn pays for it by getting the death penalty just like bama, USC, and SMU did. Fair is only fair!
1:26 am on December 21st, 2010
this article doesnt even make since….what the hell is wrong with you people? honestly… the next smu? my ass haha
1:36 am on December 21st, 2010
You bama fans are funny, you bit hook line and sinker. What’s even funner is that I am a well respected poster on BOL and you sit and wait for me to post. Like taking candy from a baby. I am drunk bty that;s no lie.
1:43 am on December 21st, 2010
I like SEC sports and this was a sad blow to the SEC because of this scandal and to the other players on the auburn team and for every team that Auburn has played. To be honest they should fire every Coach, Athletic Director and anyone who has something to do with Athletics on any school who cheats to win which pay for play is cheating. Cam Newtons Father did admit to taking money that is a Fact cant deny that!
1:44 am on December 21st, 2010
Holiness - Nice post
However, in reference to your question “That being said, why is it that so much hatred is being directed toward Cam himself?”
The reasons may include jealousy, resentment, etc. But overall, I believe that Cam’s situation is a reflection of all the things we don’t want to believe happens in college athletics (even if we do know it happens).
However, you will have a hard time defending the statement “Perhaps Cam did know about the deal, but even if he did, what is his big crime?”
No one is suggesting that it would be criminal, but he would then be playing even though he should be ineligible and he would then have openly lied to the entire nation when he stated he had done nothing wrong.
As far as standing up to your father at 20, your view may be common. But what would it take for you to do it? I doubt that your father has done anything as severe as Cecil Newton did. In this situation, the father was involved in activities that could tarnish Cam’s reputation (as we now know).
Personally, my father used better judgment than Cecil Newton and I have never felt that I needed to stand up to him
1:44 am on December 21st, 2010
Actually I do get it, there are no good answers to your questions.
1:47 am on December 21st, 2010
Sorry for not clarifying:
Kyole - Actually I do get it, there are no good answers to your questions.
1:56 am on December 21st, 2010
Hey, look! If I move the letters M and S around in MSU I get ……………….SMU!!
That’s it!! That’s the smoking gun! We’ve solved the Cam Newton case! Somebody call the NCAA!
1:58 am on December 21st, 2010
Call me jaded, but I truly believe that the vast majority of people who write articles or post bad things about Cam Newton probably cheat on their wives, do drugs, and get into various other unethical and immoral trouble all the time. Yet, these same people point their finger at Cam Newton and say, “Look at him. He’s a bad guy.” All the while, Cam is winning the Heisman trophy and leading his team to the National Championship.
3:05 am on December 21st, 2010
So much distaste is directed to Cam himself for several reasons.
The reported ~12 or so traffic violations he had in Florida, the 3 known cases of academic cheating, his ongoing lie about why he left Florida, his showboating-attention grabbing behavior, his smugness, the fact that the SEC and the NCAA have obviously attempted to protect him (&AU) against their own bylaws, and oh yeah, the very real possibility that he only arrived where he did due to a rule breaking action. Those of us that hate to see immoral, short cutters, and cheaters come out on top are having a rough time with this. We all know he will come out ok in this once he leaves Auburn behind to deal with the fallout from his and his Dad’s antics while he is living large in the NFL….that is sickening enough, even without further success and adoration being heaped on him before then.
Btw, Auburn fans, don’t forget at some point in September (before the love affair really began) I believe he did say in an interview that if he had it to do over again, he would like to still be at Florida. I’m sure that will be a nice thought if this really does develop into an ugly situation for AU while he is off to the NFL making millions of dollars. Enjoy!
3:06 am on December 21st, 2010
this Cam hater does not hate Cam personally. For me and most Cam haters are livid with the way this has been handled. From where i sit it goes like this: It seems to me that the only honest program in the SEC Miss St. has done exactly what it was suppose to. The SEC is the dirt est of the dirt. What a bunch of trash the SEC office is. They try to blame MIss St. for not filing it correct or blaming them for not getting back to them etc. That is your conference front office doing this. If the front office is doing this what the hell do they not allow. I know the ball washing the SEC does to the NCAA so this will be overlooked and the crooks will continue to control the courts. The sec has a obvious cheat advantage over other conferences so your NC are fraud also.
The ridiculous excuse that the NCAA & SEC expect the public to buy is as pathetic as they come. Were talking pre- teenager excuse. NCAA & SEC have chose the same path here so both should be replaced. They break rules and make up shit as they go. Cam-Gate opened up a can of worms people say. So slive says it needs to be fixed. What needs to be fixed, i thought Cam did not do anything. So why change anything. If he is innocent then the rule did it’s justice. NO? year after year a SEC schools have violations broken and no punishment ever handed out. This is so lame that if the people on top can’t figure it out then get rid of them.
IF YOU RELLY ARE A PROTECTOR OF CAM then you need to see the big picture here. All that positive news that he is getting now it will be 10 fold bad once this comes out. He is the poster boy in all this and the greedy sloths know this and he will get hit the hardest because people know his name and face, I do not hate Cam I hate the system that is supporting him for their own greed. But most will see it as Cam being the bad guy. And until he addresses this publicly he will be.
7:08 am on December 21st, 2010
Hey did you hear the latest? The Auburn University Boosters paid off NASA to make the Moon appear the color of Auburn University Orange during the eclipse last night. Although some say it appeared more of a Gator Orange. Officials are pressing for an FBI investigation into the matter.
8:57 am on December 21st, 2010
If the NCAA didn’t give Bama the death penalty for being on probation and violating it with the book buying scam then they certainly aren’t going to give it to a program not on probation if they were to find out they did something wrong.
9:28 am on December 21st, 2010
God you bammers are so gullible. AU is clean and clear, get over it!! You necks and all the recruiting sites claim the midget has whooped us in recruiting every year but he couldn’t beat us this year and barely one last year with your so called greatest team. If you want to be mad and ticked off you should slinging all your hatred at the midget and his coaching staff for blowing a 24 point lead. Can you say CHOKE!! Really, all you cousin grinders are doing is showing how butt hurt you all are over AU’s success. Grow up children! WDE
9:36 am on December 21st, 2010
My God! How many traffic tickets does LaMichael James have? What about Andrew Luck? This is so ridiculous! Also, since we allegedly have Cam’s academic records from Florida (which we don’t) and we know that he cheated at Florida (which we don’t - it’s just rumor from a “source”) then maybe we should ask for the academic records of all of the players so that we may approve of them before they step onto the field. Wait. That’s right. Somebody has already done that. That’s why so many good players are not playing because they didn’t qualify academically. A notorius problem. Yet, Cam Newton has been playing because he qualified academically.
Traffic tickets?!! Really? Is that what is has come to?
Hey Acwo - as far as Cam’s “attention grabbing behavior” and his “smugness” maybe he is just exceptionally confident because he is the most talented, most gifted player in the country and he is having fun. Maybe that is why you hate him.
Also, Charles H. a few posts up - Cam’s father never admitted to taking money. See, this is just the kind of trash and garbage we get in these internet posts and tabloid like articles. As long as it is sensational it gets reported whether or not it is true.
9:57 am on December 21st, 2010
When they come to take Cam’s Heisman trophy, will he throw it out the window?
10:01 am on December 21st, 2010
This is much ado about nothing. This article is a puff piece based on innuendo, speculation, and fantasy with an agenda.
The bottom-line facts are these:
The NCAA has investigated all of this as hard as any investigative body could (and you could bet that, considering the high profile component to this case, that they investigated it HARD) and has found nothing to implicate Auburn or Cam Newton….that is why he is eligible and will remain eligible to play at Auburn University.
Auburn is not, and has not been, under formal investigation by the NCAA, and there has NEVER been any indication that they will be in the future.
Auburn’s NCAA compliance officer, Rich McGlynn, has been all over this since Day One, and he is considered one of the most stringent enforcers of NCAA rules that can be found in any college athletic department in the country. So much so that current AU Head Basketball Coach Tony Barbee nearly resigned in August because of McGlynn’s attention to detail.
Auburn was aware of this entire story before it broke publicly in early November. NONE of it was a surprise to them, thus their continuing stance that Newton is and was eligible.
The reinstatement of Cam Newton on December 1st was the end. If there was a “fire”, the NCAA and its reinstatement committee would have never made this ruling.
And just because people that hate Auburn want to believe something sinister occurred, does not make it so. Like this article, they are living in a dream world. Equivalent to waiting for Santa Claus to come down the chimney on Christmas Eve.
10:14 am on December 21st, 2010
Brooks,
Speaking of living outside their means & being a “modest” family…why is Cecil shopping for condos along the Alabama/Florida gulf coast? That has occurred on, at least, 2 different occasions in the last 30 days & the range is $ 300,000 - $ 500,000. That’s big expectations for a “modest” preacher man…
11:08 am on December 21st, 2010
Hey ian, a few posts up - do you think that MSU would have reported this alleged violation if Cam had decided to play for MSU? MSU reported this alleged violation only after Cam Newton had committed to play for Auburn. Think about their motivation.
11:54 am on December 21st, 2010
Well,AU is just following their friends Bammer in attempting to outbuy the best athletes money can get. Remember when the Bammer crew blamed UT’s Fulhmer for telling on them and getting caught redhanded,lol. Best crooks in the nation are in the state Alabama!
12:10 pm on December 21st, 2010
@ —- #1OUFAN
You do remember they found those accusations Fulmer made to be proven false? You can argue if that’s why he got fired (sure, he “quit”), but still, there was actual proof they were false accusations——in the Auburn case everyone is saying to prove their innocence and show the evidence, but at the same time they don’t have evidence to PROVE their innocence like the Alabama did. I’m in Oregon, and even I remember that. I couldn’t care less what you say about either team, but that Fulmer thing you’re just saying all wrong is all.
12:14 pm on December 21st, 2010
I guess that’s the thing for me—–I don’t care about them, but Alabama PROVED their innocence in the Fulmer accusations. He got kicked out, crying, but said he quit so we’ll go with that.
But even IF they don’t find Auburn guilty, I guess the thing that bugs us the most is there’s no more proof Auburn is innocent than there is proof they are guilty. The FBI is investigating, and they say they have 600+ hours of wiretaps and 180,000 documents, but if any of those prove their guilt OR innocence, then we will have something to do. Until then, I’m tired of reading Auburn fans saying there’s no evidence they’re guilty when they have no evidence they’re not.
12:42 pm on December 21st, 2010
GETTING READY TO ROAST SOME DUCKS!
1:17 pm on December 21st, 2010
Josh,
You’re an idiot. Who do you think broke open the Albert Means and the Reggie Bush cases? the FBI. If they find stuff, they absolutely will share it. They will wait till trials are over for it to become public, but they’ve already established by interviewing John Bond and Kenny Rogers, that they are investigating the “shopping of children for money”. If they find info in the bingo/bribery investigation which is pertinent to the “player shopping” investigation, they will share it and the NCAA will get this info. But keep poking that stupid head of yours in the sand while the rest of us laugh at how stupid you sound with your lame logic. You don’t know what the hell you’re talking about.
1:34 pm on December 21st, 2010
bottom line, no one here knows what is going on at Auburn……there could be something to all this crap, or it could just be crap.
BTW, if Auburn did “buy” Cam for $180,000………We (bama) way overpaid for Albert Means.
1:35 pm on December 21st, 2010
Does it seem funny that Judge Moorer would promptly grant MacGregor a 72 hour pass to travel when he DENIED (without explanation) a similar travel pass to State Senator Harri Anne Smith just last month?
http://www.waka.com/news/4716-judge-state-sen-harri-anne-smith-cant-leave-alabama.html
1:40 pm on December 21st, 2010
Amazes me that people really want to compare the cases of Reggie Bush, SMU, and Cam Newton. Only the later two have any similarity WHY?
Well for starters
1)Lloyd Lake & Michael Michaels the money men in the USC case have NO ties at all to the University. Milton Mcgregor and Robert Lowder have DIRECT ties to the Auburn Board of Trustees. Eerily similar to SMU people. Come on. Drop the bias.
2)The NCAA didn’t bury anything about Bush..Lake/Michaels & the Bush family played a 4 year legal game of Chicken. The school was caught in the middle.
3)No rational USC person denies Bush received improper benefits. The thing people miss is these were designed to get him to LEAVE USC. REPEAT LEAVE USC AND GO TO THE NFL. Get more players into a sports agency. THAT DIDN’T BENEFIT USC.
4)Contrast #3 to what Auburn is accused of. Taking in a player whose dad admitted he shopped him elsewhere. Then he shows up for FREE at Auburn? Yeah okay.
1:44 pm on December 21st, 2010
Please get your swtory straight. The FBI investigation into the bribery scandal began long before any SEC or NCAA investigation into Cam Newton. The media’s misrepresentation about the facts is disgusting. There is smoke around Cam Newton, but please keep it to the truth; we don’t need half-truths introduced to try to make it sound even worse.
1:55 pm on December 21st, 2010
By the way:
1) There is no proof of cheating at Florida per the University of Florida itself. This rumor is the result of one “un-named source” and has never been corroborated or further developed.
2) The “money was too much” comment was from one other un-named source, and it has never been corrobotated or further developed. Supposedly, one of the MSU boosters involved in the MSU side of the story had texts for prrof, but mysteriously, he could not access them because his phone had been damaged. For some reason, he has not been able to obtain the phone records from his phone company. Convenient…
3) The “Auburn has been paying players for years with casino cards” story was from a blogger on an LSU fan website, and it has never been corroborated or further developed.
If any of these stories were true, the NCAA would have pounced on them by now.
If you believe that Cecil Newton’s actions are questionable, that’s OK. His actions have been proven and can be debated with validity by both sides of the argument. The rest of the fantasy reports are ridiculous. Let’s stick to the truth people. (And that includes the media, too!)
2:07 pm on December 21st, 2010
hey skywalker a few posts up. it looks like it did not go that route so whats with the what if’s. besides they still refused to pay. just saying
2:19 pm on December 21st, 2010
one last thing. i think we all can agree on the ncaa punishes liars. corredt? so why no punishment to MSU for saying Cam said ‘the money was to good’.
4:12 pm on December 21st, 2010
Milton McGregor is on the board of Trustees for Troy. He graduated from Auburn and gave one big donation to Auburn. He has also donated to the University of Alabama and Troy University. Why don’t you be honest and call him a business man. He is technically a University of Alabama booster, an Auburn booster and a Troy booster.
4:32 pm on December 21st, 2010
No Miss St. coach punished, yet? Because the NCAA doesn’t know who said it. The beauty of annonymous sources. They know, who you know which is next to nothing that has been verified.
And there is no FBI “Cam Connection” between their political corruption investigation in Alabama and their sports agent investigation at MISSISSIPPI STATE.
To say there is, is nothing but journalistic fraud. Isn’t that what we call guessing, speculation and conjecture wrapped in a weak attempt at reporting?
That is just some tin foil fans desperate to find some solace in their little brother status these days. Unfortuneately, that does not just apply to Bammer.
4:37 pm on December 21st, 2010
Ian,
Miss. State honest? Then why do they have boosters who have been dis-associated as a result of this “investigation”? No booster at Auburn has. No investigation of Auburn has been started.
If Miss St. is so “clean” why did the boosters think Miss St. could “come up with the money for this deal” and try to do it with rich alumni? Think these Miss St. “agent” types have done this before?
And when Cam didn’t sign, then it was time to call the NCAA. And then the press. Urban made that clear in a conference call with Mullen, that much we know.
I guess Mullen and his sugar-daddy - Urban - got together to drop whatever smear they could on a competitor. But, it backfired on Miss St. (Ooor kenny now an outlaw at his own school. ) and Urban didn’t know his team would suck so bad and become irrelevent so fast.
4:39 pm on December 21st, 2010
how about the premise that sec and ncca was afraid to go after cam because of the black church angle. go after poor ole brother cecil and jesse and al sharpton would be arm in arm with their long lost brother saying how big-bad white ncca was picking on cecil. next jesse would be all over tv asking all black players not play in the bowls games to show their support for the black congrations. can’t go messing in black collection plates. milton mcgregor has been paying off black preachers his whole carreer. the only thing u need to know about auburn is their field is named after the biggest cheater of the 1990/s pat dye who was forced to resign and is now gene/s best advisior.jaba.
4:42 pm on December 21st, 2010
Be prepared AU. It’s coming!
4:45 pm on December 21st, 2010
No one has ever heard of that silly angle, golfer. You just made it up,
With no evidence beyond the Cecil/Miss St. “finding” by the NCAA, what would you have them do? Manufacture a finding to match your desperate prayer?
Seems like Cecil has been punished already and where are the voices you hate so much? Probably buried in your racist view of life. Get back to your White Citizens Council meetings.
6:37 pm on December 21st, 2010
I dont have a dog in this fight and AU and Cam kicked our butts, but a few things seem obvious. 1 cams daddy shopped him, whether he got paid directly or indirectly remains to be seen. 2 The NCAA cares more about the $$$ than its own or member schools integrity. When the checks are cashed from the bowls NCAA will find the required evidence to pound AU and do a Reggie Bush on Cam and his heisman. In fact i bet it is as shallow and callous as the Clinton whitewater docs that showed up on a desk in the whitehouse that had been checked several times before. No way the NCAA cuts its own financial throat before the big payday. NCAA is a self policing agency who guards the holy grail of college football like a fox guarding a hen house. They play ostrich with heads buried in the sand and only come up to cry foul when the evidence is so damning, it can no longer be ignored. Auburn will get hammered, Cam will bolt to the pros and the NCAA will continue to rot from the neck up until someone looks behind the curtain to expose the hypocricy. None of the above will change a thing as long as the money continues to flow. NCAA has no authority over cams dad the agents and runners, so youre asking poor young athletes to maintain a standard of integrity that their coaches, AD’s, Univ Presidents, Commissioners and NCAA lack. Good luck with that one.
11:56 pm on December 21st, 2010
MDBlue
Their is no such thing as a completely clean program in college football. Your quick to point out that Miss St. had trouble in the past but no investigation is going on at Auburn at the moment. But you bring up ones past while leaving your past out. I do not know off the top of my head what each schools pasts are but that would be a fair way to look at it. Not by ones past and the others current situations. Hypocrite come to mind.
When their is a problem in the SEC the conference ” investigates” before turning it over to the NCAA. If it chooses too. It is a special rule for a special conference to be able to disable, get rid of , sweep it away before the NCAA gets involved. The SEC has the privileged to police its self. Which is … you know what. that is an enirely different issue and i wont go into that.
You scream journalistic fraud and nobody knows anything. I know a lot,. I know that the NZAA , SEC, auburn made back room deals all hush, hush to declare Cam ineligible and get reinstated the next day. Done before anyone could say anything. WHY? I know that the NZAA, SEC, Auburn have turned a cheek and embarrassed a rule violation that is plain as day. No grey area , black and white. Everyone in college knows it does not matter if the kid knows or not. His college career was over before he even got to Auburn. The NZAA, SEC, Auburn have twisted this rule to their greedy benefit and obviously very corrupt as they are arrogant.. I know that cecil church is all good, drives a new $ 60,000.00 SUV , and is currently property shopping. All of these things i am not pulling out of my ass. Multiple reports from various news sites reporting these things. If all this is BS i guess the state of mississippi never interviewed anyone either? Facts are facts.
9:28 am on December 22nd, 2010
Ian,
You argue that assumptions should rule the day and and then, like a hypcrite, demand some historical facts. Look some up yourself. You’ll find the last time Auburn had serious NCAA issues with football was 27 friggin years ago.
How’s your last 27 years been?
As for your bizarre assumption that “something” bad happened in a backroon somewhere, just show me proof and facts and we’ll talk. There is no rule that keeps a player from playing at a school from which he received no extra benefits. None whatsoever.
Thats what you call “Black and White.”
If you’re going to fall back on SEC rules about a player banished from one school being banned from playing at any other SEC school, READ THE RULES CAREFULLY.
There was no agreement to violate the rules. It takes two to agree. Daddy may have tried but he failed. But, given your assinine assumption that “something” bad must have happened and Cam shouldn’t play for anyone don;t amount to much beyond “belief.”
You need to grow up and figure out the difference between what you “believe” and what is known to be a fact. No matter how many “news” organizations try to stretch a Honda into a limo…at the end of the day, it’s still only a Honda. If that’s where you put your faith, there’s little anyone can do to educate you.
9:33 am on December 22nd, 2010
Dawgs,
How many Dawgs will get arrested THIS year?
Again, your “beliefs” don’t really mean much to anyone. You can’t can’t really feel bad about auburn beating Georgia when it’s been so easy for so many to do so over the years.
And yet, it seems so clear to you that someone else must doing something bad in order to beat the mighty dogs - that is what you led with right?
It’s amazing that no proof about Auburn or Cam has been laid on the table and yet you are willing to slam them both all because - and this is what I believe - they aren’t Georgia Bulldawgs, they are not your team.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
10:30 am on December 22nd, 2010
MDBlue,
” Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life , son “…….. speeking from experiance, numb nuts ??? do you really believe that cam and his dad turned down $180, 000 from MSU to play at Auburn for free ???? Blind leading the Blind. you homers need to see the reality side of all of this . and if this was happening to Bama, all of you losers would be saying the same. you guys need to learn to cheat like the Ohio St. ’s of the college world.
10:35 am on December 22nd, 2010
you guys down south need to learn how to cheat like the Ohio st.’s of the college world.
10:52 am on December 22nd, 2010
mdblue. stupid aubie// check your past//27 years. what about 1993-94 when the all time cheater u named your field after was forced by the ncca to resign as coach and a.d. and was also forced to not be allowed to be associated w./ auburn until august of 1995. 27 years/ great thug coach you have in trooper street cred taylor who is suing auburn high school to let his little thug son to wear long hair when the black high school coach has a rule against it. the auburn tradition continues, win only when you cheat.
10:53 am on December 22nd, 2010
you guys down south are doing this all wrong, first you payoff the guy that runs the NCAA investigation, then you pay the players.
10:55 am on December 22nd, 2010
Golfer - you’re not very good at math are you? UAT grad?
So, haircuts are your concern now? Have you seen the young mans. It’s short and neat. You might like it.
I guess its easy for you to call young men names such as thug, as long as that young men is an African-American. Now, that tells me something about you.
11:00 am on December 22nd, 2010
R U Serious,
I think i’ll go with the facts as opposed to your assumptions and guesswork. When you get facts, come on back let’s discuss. Until then, your “vision” appears to be tainted, for some reason. But that’s just an “assumption” on my part. I don’t really have facts to prove it.
I mean, I assume you’re an inbred jerk who flails around with accusations about anyone and everything that isn’t in his own backyard, but I am sure there are some facts which might mitigate such guesswork.
We just haven’t seen them yet and it’s not because we’re blind, either.
1:27 pm on December 22nd, 2010
BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!
BOTTOM LINE…CAM NEWTON IS THE BEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYER EVER AND A FINE INDIVIDUAL. PERIOD.
AUBURN WILL CHOKE THE QUACK RIGHT OUT OF OREGON. PERIOD.
WAR EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1:54 pm on December 22nd, 2010
First of all, I am a huge Alabama fan. And will admit that I do NOT want AU to win a National Championship. Those fans are terrible, it’s like watching rednecks that haven’t owned the fact that they are actually rednecks….which is worse than just kissing your sister and getting it over with.
However, best case scenario for AU: No evidence is ever found out to support that AU paid for Cam. But, he will be proven to have been ineligible and there’s no way around it…..AU will vacate every win in games that he played in. ALL OF THEM.
So hold on to this “you’re all just haters” or “you all are just jealous” routine for as long as you can. The honest truth of the matter is that: AUBURN, YOU ARE IRRELEVANT!!! No one cares about you and they never will. You are the ugly fat sister that hates the hot popular one! Deal with it, because it’s the truth and somewhere deep down behind your gay Under Armour turtlenecks that you got halfpriced at KOHLS….YOU KNOW IT”S TRUE!
2:43 pm on December 22nd, 2010
All said and DONE!!!! Scam will return the Heisman, no Title and Auburn will be depleated to the C-USA conference.
5:53 pm on December 22nd, 2010
Ian - are you a fan of Fox News? This is how it works in sports (and at Fox News), one source comes up with an “unnamed, unverified source” and all the rest of the news outlets are busting their tails to report the faux news. How? By quoting each other. The more the “unnamed source” gets quoted on different websites, the more this background “noise” makes it sound like everyone has uncovered a “new fact” - in reality, thats thats how they make it look bad. The Fox (Faux) News way - thats how they gin up stories (lies) to drag down anyone they think is a liberal - its the EXACT same process. Do any of the news media outlets have motivation to find the truth, instead of stirring up shit to get more readership at any cost? No, they sure dont - they’d rather quote “unnamed sources” which is in fact, journalistic FRAUD. Thats precisely how this Cam Newton crap is getting ginned up. “Cecil is currently property shopping”, why, the even know the money range - how convenient! And they even know how much he paid for a new SUV, again, how convenient! “Multiple reports from various news sites” yeah, that means it started with one unverifiable “source” and they all quoted that one, then they all started quoting each other to make it look bigger than it is….Disgusting! They dont give a shit who they roast over this, they only know that they’ll get readers and website hits if they keep balloon going. And it’ll never pop, the air will just leak out slowly, once there’s no new evidence to show anything is true - and people will only remember the bad parts - none of these jerks will EVER apologize, once it becomes clear that with the exception of Cecil and Rogers and MSU, it was all smoke and mirrors - a trick to bring down auburn and Cam Newton. So, what did they accomplish? Destroying the reputation of a young man with the whole football world at his fingertips and the tearing down further of the reputation of Auburn and the SEC, both of which i’ll admit have had their problems. But if you think other major conferences and teams havent had similar problems, think again - they want to destroy Auburn in the media spotlight so the dirty ones have time to cover their own tracks, you mark my words.